0000529: Yet another way to break pathfinding, this time with a rock.

(0001237)
RichardCorey (reporter)
2010-04-05 15:29

Are you sure it's forever, and won't suddenly break after a few seasons?

(0001239)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-05 15:35

Are you sure it's not the workshop itself preventing the dwarf from leaving? Workshops have impassable tiles -- see the "Be Aware" paragraph here http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Workshop [^]

(0001240)
king doom (reporter)
2010-04-05 15:35
edited on: 2010-04-05 15:38

I don't know how long it lasts, I'm not an expert with invisible walls, generally by the time the dwarf starves to death I give a long, drawn out sigh and start another fort.

Yes I'm sure it's not the workshop itself preventing the dwarf from leaving. I made sure to place the workshops so that dwarves can exit and enter freely. I tried placing a cabinet in the space the rock was, I got the pinkish cannot place here no access to available materials message when I tried.

(0001243)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-05 15:43

What happens if the workshop gets deconstructed? Does the bug last through a save/load?

(0001251)
king doom (reporter)
2010-04-05 16:10

The bug persists through workshops being deconstructed, still can't place anything in the doorway into the room, the game still considers it a location with no available materials if you try to build something there. Not sure about the save/reload, I lost a pretty important dwarf and the spiral was going to wipe out my fort so I restarted.

(0001258)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-05 16:25
edited on: 2010-04-05 16:31

Upload a save if it ever happens again.

I tend to construct my workshops in 3x3 rooms with a single doorway, to prevent moody dwarfs from getting loose. In fact I'm using this design in my current fort. So far I haven't had any issues with any dwarves getting stuck. (Built ~ 10 workshops so far in 3x3 areas without issue)

(0001307)
finesse (reporter)
2010-04-05 19:40

With this bug generally waiting a few seasons will fix it, otherwise a save/exit/load always works for me.

Also, I have never had a problem placing multiple buildings to be built (a few hundred at a time) and save/exit/load after placing them but before letting them start building and my little minions never get stuck after building (thought this might be relevant for toady to know).

(0003103)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-12 12:36

This and other issues are being marked resolved because they fit the symptoms of the general pathing bug described by issues 0000018 and 0000070. If this issue represents an additional bug, it will most likely present different symptoms in 31.03, and a new report should be submitted.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-05 15:27	king doom	New Issue
2010-04-05 15:29	RichardCorey	Note Added: 0001237
2010-04-05 15:34	king doom	Tag Attached: pathfinding
2010-04-05 15:35	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0001239
2010-04-05 15:35	king doom	Note Added: 0001240
2010-04-05 15:38	king doom	Note Edited: 0001240	View Revisions
2010-04-05 15:43	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0001243
2010-04-05 16:10	king doom	Note Added: 0001251
2010-04-05 16:25	Logical2u	Note Added: 0001258
2010-04-05 16:31	Logical2u	Note Edited: 0001258	View Revisions
2010-04-05 19:40	finesse	Note Added: 0001307
2010-04-05 22:20	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000018
2010-04-11 18:35	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Still Present in 31.03?
2010-04-12 12:36	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0003103
2010-04-12 12:36	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-04-12 12:36	Footkerchief	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.03
2010-04-12 12:36	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-04-12 12:36	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-04-12 12:40	Footkerchief	Status	resolved => assigned
2010-04-12 12:40	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2010-04-12 12:41	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => resolved
2010-04-12 13:12	Footkerchief	Status	resolved => assigned
2010-04-12 13:13	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => resolved
2010-04-12 13:13	Footkerchief	Fixed in Version	0.31.03 =>
2010-04-12 13:13	Footkerchief	Resolution	fixed => duplicate
2010-06-04 10:06	Footkerchief	Tag Renamed	Still Present in 31.03? => Fixed in 31.03?
2010-06-09 06:46	Toady One	Status	resolved => closed
2010-12-11 08:59	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: Fixed in 31.03?

Notes
(0001237) RichardCorey (reporter) 2010-04-05 15:29	Are you sure it's forever, and won't suddenly break after a few seasons?

(0001239) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-05 15:35	Are you sure it's not the workshop itself preventing the dwarf from leaving? Workshops have impassable tiles -- see the "Be Aware" paragraph here http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Workshop [^]

(0001240) king doom (reporter) 2010-04-05 15:35 edited on: 2010-04-05 15:38	I don't know how long it lasts, I'm not an expert with invisible walls, generally by the time the dwarf starves to death I give a long, drawn out sigh and start another fort. Yes I'm sure it's not the workshop itself preventing the dwarf from leaving. I made sure to place the workshops so that dwarves can exit and enter freely. I tried placing a cabinet in the space the rock was, I got the pinkish cannot place here no access to available materials message when I tried.

(0001243) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-05 15:43	What happens if the workshop gets deconstructed? Does the bug last through a save/load?

(0001251) king doom (reporter) 2010-04-05 16:10	The bug persists through workshops being deconstructed, still can't place anything in the doorway into the room, the game still considers it a location with no available materials if you try to build something there. Not sure about the save/reload, I lost a pretty important dwarf and the spiral was going to wipe out my fort so I restarted.

(0001258) Logical2u (manager) 2010-04-05 16:25 edited on: 2010-04-05 16:31	Upload a save if it ever happens again. I tend to construct my workshops in 3x3 rooms with a single doorway, to prevent moody dwarfs from getting loose. In fact I'm using this design in my current fort. So far I haven't had any issues with any dwarves getting stuck. (Built ~ 10 workshops so far in 3x3 areas without issue)

(0001307) finesse (reporter) 2010-04-05 19:40	With this bug generally waiting a few seasons will fix it, otherwise a save/exit/load always works for me. Also, I have never had a problem placing multiple buildings to be built (a few hundred at a time) and save/exit/load after placing them but before letting them start building and my little minions never get stuck after building (thought this might be relevant for toady to know).

(0003103) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-12 12:36	This and other issues are being marked resolved because they fit the symptoms of the general pathing bug described by issues 0000018 and 0000070. If this issue represents an additional bug, it will most likely present different symptoms in 31.03, and a new report should be submitted.