0007553: Adv Mode lag that increases with sleep/retirement

Notes
(0027168) lethosor (manager) 2014-07-21 18:44	This may be the same as 0006623 (overpopulation), although it's difficult to diagnose without being able to see the rest of the site. The lack of an exit sounds like 0006541.

(0027169) Robsoie (reporter) 2014-07-21 18:47	World Viewer tells me that in there should be : 79 dwarves 144 goblins ( ? ) 10 dogs 10 cats 10 mules 2 donkeys 2 horses 2 cows 2 sheeps 3 pigs 8 goats 2 chickens 8 cavies 2 ducks 2 water buffalos 2 reindeers 2 geeses 2 yaks 2 llamas 6 alpacas 2 guineaflows 8 peaflows 2 turkeys 2 rabbits (looks like the site caps seems to do nothing as it's a pocket world with 20 years of history , population should be much lower)

(0027171) Robsoie (reporter) 2014-07-21 18:47	I think this one is a mix of several bugs indeed

(0027172) Robsoie (reporter) 2014-07-21 18:54 edited on: 2014-07-21 18:56	Looking more on the world viewer, i noticed a cave with 2 giant rats 2 trolls 449 bats 426 cave spiders 354 cave swallows and several other caves like this one in term of population, the 2 goblins site have more than 400 people in each, a huge number despite the population cap pocket world should have. So i think the overpopulation bug is back , and the site population cap may be then completely or partially ignored then as a pocket world has a rather low cap for site pop by default, shouldn't be anywhere close to those kind of population number. This may play a role too in this bug (as the population of that fortress despite being nowhere to be seen is rather huge too)

(0027183) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-21 21:59 edited on: 2014-07-21 22:00	Please edit your comments instead of posting multiple comments in a row. Populations of a few hundred are totally reasonable and shouldn't cause the game to freeze, in and of themselves. The overpopulation bug (0006804) had populations in the tens of millions -- no comparison. Being stunned after sleep is normal. Fortresses with no exit are covered at 0006541. I suspect the growing lag is from 0007206.

(0027204) Robsoie (reporter) 2014-07-22 09:49	Sorry on the multiple comments. An update that i think is interesting : I generated another pocket world with only 10 years of history, i edited the pocket world setting so there would be more civs, more sites and lower total pop cap, all of this in order to have much less populations inside of sites and test if indeed that was the source of the heavy lag. And my dwarf adventurer started in a fortress as expected but what i didn't was that the level of lag was unplayable, even worse than the previously reported fortress and world. I then retired the character on site, too much lag to even explore, i loaded the legends xml in World Viewer and discovered that this fortress had a population of : 15 dwarves and ... nothing more ! Now that's strange, it's not possible 15 AI would lag the game that much ? Then i un-retired my character as i didn't tested if i could even Travel out of it, (in the save it's "Domas Tobulisos from Tosteshtan" ), and suddenly it's completely smooth, very high performance . I don't understand how it's possible, but something certainly happened during the "world update" after un-retiring, because before it , the place was completely unplayable. Here is the saved game from before un-retiring : http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9116 [^] But something else that is strange is that after unretiring, as i could move without lag, i explored the fort a bit and ran into a goblin that told me "long live the cause" Hmm, there was no goblin and only a total of 15 dwarves before. I wonder if this goblin intrusion that has happened during the world update has done something to the actual source of lag

(0027205) Mopsy (reporter) 2014-07-22 10:05 edited on: 2014-08-05 04:44	I encountered a similar problem in my latest 40.04 game. When I first arrived at the NPC-built dwarf fortress, a dozen or so people were asleep in the trade depot and the lag was unremarkable. When I came back in the morning, only a handful of people were in the depot (still asleep), but each move took several seconds. When I traveled away briefly, then returned to the fortress and left fast travel, the game was completely unresponsive. I never saw any animals. Edit: I visited the same fort again and this time I did find the population, including a pile of cats waiting at a closed door. It turned out that they were all staying further underground, below the connection to the tunnel through the cavern. The lag problem was still the same. Issue 0007821 (which has an attached save) is probably related to this one.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-21 18:40	Robsoie	New Issue
2014-07-21 18:41	lethosor	Relationship added	related to 0006623
2014-07-21 18:44	lethosor	Note Added: 0027168
2014-07-21 18:47	Robsoie	Note Added: 0027169
2014-07-21 18:47	Robsoie	Note Added: 0027171
2014-07-21 18:54	Robsoie	Note Added: 0027172
2014-07-21 18:55	Robsoie	Note Edited: 0027172	View Revisions
2014-07-21 18:56	Robsoie	Note Edited: 0027172	View Revisions
2014-07-21 21:59	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0027183
2014-07-21 22:00	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0027183	View Revisions
2014-07-21 22:00	Footkerchief	Summary	very bugged fortress in adventure mode start => Adv Mode lag that increases with sleep/retirement
2014-07-22 09:49	Robsoie	Note Added: 0027204
2014-07-22 10:05	Mopsy	Note Added: 0027205
2014-07-22 10:06	Mopsy	Note Edited: 0027205	View Revisions
2014-07-22 10:08	Mopsy	Note Edited: 0027205	View Revisions
2014-07-22 10:15	Mopsy	Issue Monitored: Mopsy
2014-08-02 15:56	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007748
2014-08-05 04:36	Mopsy	Note Edited: 0027205	View Revisions
2014-08-05 04:44	Mopsy	Note Edited: 0027205	View Revisions
2014-08-10 07:26	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-10 07:26	Footkerchief	Status	new => confirmed
2014-08-10 07:26	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0007748
2014-08-10 10:28	lethosor	Relationship replaced	child of 0006623