0007387: NPC present himself as [SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME]

(0026671)
DocHoncho (reporter)
2014-07-16 14:27

Confirmed independantly on a save of my own. Unknown if related to reputation, I hadn't noticed it until I became a legendary hero.

(0029195)
AltF4 (reporter)
2014-08-17 14:53
edited on: 2014-08-17 14:54

Similar to DocHoncho I have only saw this when I am became legendary
Windows 40.08

(0034544)
cpman (reporter)
2016-01-24 13:11

This bug is still present in 0.42.05.

(0034546)
Detros (manager)
2016-01-25 00:55

Though 0.42.06 may change it: "Then I added adjectives in the announcement names of people when you don't know their names, so the combat logs etc. aren't so ambiguous" (devlog http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ [^] from 2015-01-24).

(0035548)
Rockphed (reporter)
2016-07-02 19:25

Just encountered this in 43.06. I told a town about killing a dragon, a giant, and a marsh titan. I also told them about one of my (now dead) followers killing a cyclops. When I introduced myself, the reply goes like,
"The dwarf drunk Ilral Konnish: [Ilral Konnish is dumbstruck for a moment.] A legend? Here? I can scarcely believe it. I am [SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME]. How can I be of service? Are you stalking a dangerous beast?"

(0035552)
Quietust (reporter)
2016-07-03 06:54

Rockphed: I assume you meant 0.42.06, since the latest version at this time is only 0.43.04.

(0036638)
hertggf (reporter)
2017-06-27 17:45

I'm having have the same issue. This can be distinguished from the widely reported "Hi I'm TRANS_NAME]" bug (which occurs in sapients who don't have a name) because here the sapient in question does have a name, it just doesn't print correctly when he uses the "dumbstruck" greeting. I'm using 43.05.

Screenshot:
https://u.nya.is/encepn.png [^]

(0039671)
noxiilarxene (reporter)
2020-01-21 10:33

Confirmed still v44.12

(0039922)
hertggf (reporter)
2020-02-06 16:11

Still in 47.01

(0039926)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2020-02-07 01:34

In data => speech => greet.txt which can be edited, the token language points towards the use of [CONTEXT:] to seek places and persons rather than self referencially.

Supplied wiki link, though it is out-dated as more speech entries have been added since, but is helpful for reference.
(( http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Speech_file [^] ))

(0039927)
FantasticDorf (reporter)
2020-02-07 01:48

However in the wiki it had been represented solely as [SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME] upon the same general.txt file (not knowing what particular version that comes from) compared to [CONTEXT:SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME] which can be found in the current edition of 44 & 47.01.

Suggesting that CONTEXT is defective somehow given that [AUDIENCE:RACE] works correctly and by stretch of imagination editing in a custom response using [SPEAKER:RACE] could flatly tell the player the information without the pretext.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-16 12:20	Robsoie	New Issue
2014-07-16 12:30	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005075
2014-07-16 14:27	DocHoncho	Note Added: 0026671
2014-08-17 14:53	AltF4	Note Added: 0029195
2014-08-17 14:54	AltF4	Note Edited: 0029195	View Revisions
2014-11-18 10:29	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008561
2014-11-18 10:30	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-11-18 10:30	Footkerchief	Status	new => confirmed
2015-03-21 20:16	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008863
2015-03-23 12:09	Dwarfu	Relationship added	child of 0008867
2015-03-23 12:11	Dwarfu	Relationship deleted	child of 0008867
2015-03-23 12:11	Dwarfu	Relationship added	parent of 0008867
2015-12-13 09:44	Hedede	Issue Monitored: Hedede
2016-01-24 13:11	cpman	Note Added: 0034544
2016-01-25 00:55	Detros	Note Added: 0034546
2016-05-24 10:26	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0009786
2016-05-24 10:26	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: mrmagolor
2016-07-02 19:25	Rockphed	Note Added: 0035548
2016-07-03 06:54	Quietust	Note Added: 0035552
2017-06-08 20:16	Huntthetroll	Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2017-06-27 17:45	hertggf	Note Added: 0036638
2017-07-22 12:57	hertggf	Issue Monitored: hertggf
2019-01-27 15:27	Loci	Relationship added	has duplicate 0011010
2019-01-27 15:27	Loci	Issue Monitored: marcrell
2020-01-21 10:33	noxiilarxene	Note Added: 0039671
2020-02-06 16:11	hertggf	Note Added: 0039922
2020-02-07 01:34	FantasticDorf	Note Added: 0039926
2020-02-07 01:48	FantasticDorf	Note Added: 0039927

Notes
(0026671) DocHoncho (reporter) 2014-07-16 14:27	Confirmed independantly on a save of my own. Unknown if related to reputation, I hadn't noticed it until I became a legendary hero.

(0029195) AltF4 (reporter) 2014-08-17 14:53 edited on: 2014-08-17 14:54	Similar to DocHoncho I have only saw this when I am became legendary Windows 40.08

(0034544) cpman (reporter) 2016-01-24 13:11	This bug is still present in 0.42.05.

(0034546) Detros (manager) 2016-01-25 00:55	Though 0.42.06 may change it: "Then I added adjectives in the announcement names of people when you don't know their names, so the combat logs etc. aren't so ambiguous" (devlog http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ [^] from 2015-01-24).

(0035548) Rockphed (reporter) 2016-07-02 19:25	Just encountered this in 43.06. I told a town about killing a dragon, a giant, and a marsh titan. I also told them about one of my (now dead) followers killing a cyclops. When I introduced myself, the reply goes like, "The dwarf drunk Ilral Konnish: [Ilral Konnish is dumbstruck for a moment.] A legend? Here? I can scarcely believe it. I am [SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME]. How can I be of service? Are you stalking a dangerous beast?"

(0035552) Quietust (reporter) 2016-07-03 06:54	Rockphed: I assume you meant 0.42.06, since the latest version at this time is only 0.43.04.

(0036638) hertggf (reporter) 2017-06-27 17:45	I'm having have the same issue. This can be distinguished from the widely reported "Hi I'm TRANS_NAME]" bug (which occurs in sapients who don't have a name) because here the sapient in question does have a name, it just doesn't print correctly when he uses the "dumbstruck" greeting. I'm using 43.05. Screenshot: https://u.nya.is/encepn.png [^]

(0039671) noxiilarxene (reporter) 2020-01-21 10:33	Confirmed still v44.12

(0039922) hertggf (reporter) 2020-02-06 16:11	Still in 47.01

(0039926) FantasticDorf (reporter) 2020-02-07 01:34	In data => speech => greet.txt which can be edited, the token language points towards the use of [CONTEXT:] to seek places and persons rather than self referencially. Supplied wiki link, though it is out-dated as more speech entries have been added since, but is helpful for reference. (( http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Speech_file [^] ))

(0039927) FantasticDorf (reporter) 2020-02-07 01:48	However in the wiki it had been represented solely as [SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME] upon the same general.txt file (not knowing what particular version that comes from) compared to [CONTEXT:SPEAKER:TRANS_NAME] which can be found in the current edition of 44 & 47.01. Suggesting that CONTEXT is defective somehow given that [AUDIENCE:RACE] works correctly and by stretch of imagination editing in a custom response using [SPEAKER:RACE] could flatly tell the player the information without the pretext.