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0001092Dwarf FortressCreaturespublic2010-04-13 10:462014-11-19 06:42
smjjames 
Footkerchief 
normalminoralways
confirmedopen 
0.31.03 
 
0001092: Blizzard men lack CANNOT_UNDEAD and are generally unfinished
This is probably directly related to the report of blizzard men bleeding in magma, which I've observed myself.

I haven't tested what happens to undead Blizzard Men in magma.
Go to Arena, select Blizzard men and toggle the undead switch.
Probable Quick Fix, undead
has duplicate 0002827resolved Footkerchief Blizzard man has [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS] but no ribs 
related to 0000264new  Magma man destroys blizzard man's fat without causing other damage 
related to 0005012new  Blizzard men in cages will burn forever 
Issue History
2010-04-13 10:46smjjamesNew Issue
2010-04-13 10:50FootkerchiefSummaryYou can make Blizzard Men undead, while other material men (except plump helmet men) can't => Blizzard men lack CANNOT_UNDEAD and are generally unfinished
2010-04-13 10:56smjjamesNote Added: 0003290
2010-04-13 11:10smjjamesNote Edited: 0003290bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003290#r1070
2010-04-13 11:13smjjamesTag Attached: undead
2010-04-13 11:21FootkerchiefNote Added: 0003295
2010-04-28 11:46FootkerchiefTag Attached: PROBABLE QUICK FIX
2010-07-07 20:20smjjamesNote Added: 0009766
2010-07-07 21:14FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009769
2010-07-07 21:14FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000264
2010-07-07 21:39smjjamesNote Added: 0009772
2010-07-25 10:32FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002827
2011-01-03 20:37DwarfuNote Added: 0014782
2012-01-10 09:19FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005012
2014-01-17 10:40Kirig StonebeardIssue Monitored: Kirig Stonebeard
2014-11-19 00:00JayJayForceNote Added: 0031072
2014-11-19 06:42FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-11-19 06:42FootkerchiefStatusnew => confirmed

Notes
(0003290)
smjjames   
2010-04-13 10:56   
(edited on: 2010-04-13 11:10)
Okay on making the title more concise, but I don't get the generally unfinished.

An update here, I let a zombie and a skeletal Blizzard Man marinate in magma for a while and they are immortal, they show alot of yellow wounds and the zombie has brown wounds to cheeks and eyelids for some reason.

(0003295)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-13 11:21   
"I don't get the generally unfinished."

They have this note in their creature def:
*** needs to be made out of ice

Right now they're just big humanoids with red eyes and no blood.
(0009766)
smjjames   
2010-07-07 20:20   
While we're at it, maybe link this to 0000307? It could be distantly related to that because of materials.
(0009769)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-07 21:14   
The ability to make them undead has nothing to do with materials, if that's what you mean.
(0009772)
smjjames   
2010-07-07 21:39   
I meant the materials part, not the fact that they can be made undead. Still links to the whole undead bleeding in magma thing though.
(0014782)
Dwarfu   
2011-01-03 20:37   
To add to the 'unfinished' part:

They have their description, pref strings and color modifiers set for red eyes, but I have one that came up with amber eyes (haven't found the tag, or lack of a tag, that is causing this):

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/Mondoshawan/moreofabrownreally.jpg [^]
(0031072)
JayJayForce   
2014-11-19 00:00   
Can confirm still present in 0.40.16

Their raws still have the note that they should be made out of ice, but they are still fleshy so Toady hasn't changed his mind. Either their is some reason they haven't been changed or considering all the golems we have now he just forgot.

Spawned about 40 in Arena mode and all had red eyes.