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0000017Dwarf FortressTechnical -- Generalpublic2010-04-01 14:392010-09-15 13:12
ReporterDoctorZuber 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityunable to reproduce
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformPCOSWindows VistaOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.05 
Summary0000017: Embark starts with no expedition leader, resulting in missing labors and blank nobles screen
DescriptionAt embark was only seeing four labor groups, Mining, Healthcare, Hauling, and Other Jobs. Unsure if it is related but also saw that the nobles menu was completely blank.
Steps To ReproduceTried several variations at embark, skilled/unskilled dwarves, different areas. So far have been unable to reproduce this bug.
Additional Information
Tagsembark, labors, nobles, orders
Relationships
related to 0000735closed Toady One Loading game immed. after generating new world results in invalid ID numbers 
has duplicate 0000811closed Footkerchief The majority of jobs suddenly stopped showing up on my dwarves labour list. 
has duplicate 0000873closed Footkerchief expedition leader not being assigned on embark 
has duplicate 0001446resolved Footkerchief Nobles and Administrators start out blanked upon embark 
has duplicate 0000743resolved Footkerchief most jobs dont show up, also there is nothing in the noble screen 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-01 14:39DoctorZuberNew Issue
2010-04-01 17:58ercdvsNote Added: 0000049
2010-04-01 18:11DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000056
2010-04-01 18:12DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0000056bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0000056#r15
2010-04-01 18:17ercdvsNote Added: 0000061
2010-04-01 18:32DoctorZuberNote Added: 0000065
2010-04-01 18:33DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0000065bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0000065#r17
2010-04-02 05:51TodestoolTag Attached: embark
2010-04-03 11:49FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000286
2010-04-03 11:52AquillionTag Attached: labors
2010-04-03 11:52AquillionTag Attached: labours
2010-04-03 11:53AquillionTag Detached: labours
2010-04-03 19:15H. MonkeyTag Attached: nobles
2010-04-03 19:15H. MonkeyTag Attached: orders
2010-04-03 19:17taerareshNote Added: 0000746
2010-04-03 21:05H. MonkeyNote Added: 0000776
2010-04-06 03:56kaosdrachenNote Added: 0001395
2010-04-06 06:54DoctorZuberNote Added: 0001423
2010-04-06 06:57DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0001423bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0001423#r433
2010-04-08 02:42kaosdrachenIssue Monitored: kaosdrachen
2010-04-08 10:04FootkerchiefSummaryLabors Missing from [V],[P],[L] => Labors Missing from VPL
2010-04-08 10:05FootkerchiefRelationship replacedparent of 0000286
2010-04-08 10:05FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000792
2010-04-08 10:26DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002082
2010-04-08 12:19anomalyNote Added: 0002117
2010-04-08 12:23DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002120
2010-04-08 12:53FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000811
2010-04-08 13:30FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-04-09 09:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000873
2010-04-09 14:11CyberGenesisNote Added: 0002423
2010-04-09 14:13CyberGenesisNote Edited: 0002423bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002423#r758
2010-04-09 15:23FootkerchiefSummaryLabors Missing from VPL => Labors missing from VPL at embark, possibly caused by failure to select expedition leader
2010-04-09 15:53ShokuNote Added: 0002445
2010-04-09 16:11ShokuNote Edited: 0002445bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002445#r768
2010-04-10 02:02CyberGenesisNote Added: 0002535
2010-04-10 11:16MattasmackNote Added: 0002614
2010-04-10 11:29DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002618
2010-04-10 12:44MattasmackNote Edited: 0002614bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002614#r858
2010-04-11 03:30DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0002618bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002618#r899
2010-04-11 05:52Toady OneNote Added: 0002787
2010-04-11 05:52Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2010-04-11 05:52Toady OneStatusnew => acknowledged
2010-04-11 06:14zanteNote Added: 0002790
2010-04-11 09:06MattasmackNote Added: 0002809
2010-04-11 09:07MattasmackNote Edited: 0002809bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002809#r914
2010-04-11 09:15MattasmackNote Edited: 0002809bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002809#r915
2010-04-11 09:40DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002818
2010-04-11 09:46DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0002818bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002818#r917
2010-04-11 10:20FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000983
2010-04-11 10:46MattasmackNote Added: 0002836
2010-04-11 10:59DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002839
2010-04-11 12:24RiceMunkNote Added: 0002855
2010-04-11 14:22DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002879
2010-04-11 15:13MaDeR LevapIssue Monitored: MaDeR Levap
2010-04-11 22:12NimrodIssue Monitored: Nimrod
2010-04-11 22:12NimrodIssue End Monitor: Nimrod
2010-04-12 17:13xomgNote Added: 0003158
2010-04-12 20:56DoctorZuberNote Added: 0003197
2010-04-13 06:38HazelrahBLIssue Monitored: HazelrahBL
2010-04-13 07:53MisterstoneNote Added: 0003253
2010-04-13 08:57FootkerchiefNote Added: 0003268
2010-04-13 08:57FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000381
2010-04-13 08:57FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0003268bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003268#r1064
2010-04-13 08:58FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0003268bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003268#r1065
2010-04-13 09:08SirPenguinNote Added: 0003271
2010-04-13 13:32FootkerchiefNote Added: 0003318
2010-04-13 13:33FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0003318bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003318#r1078
2010-04-13 14:36MisterstoneNote Added: 0003328
2010-04-17 14:14ra2phoenixIssue Monitored: ra2phoenix
2010-04-17 17:25simrobertIssue Monitored: simrobert
2010-04-17 17:40JinalealiaIssue Monitored: Jinalealia
2010-04-18 11:07swamp donkeyNote Added: 0004068
2010-04-18 11:39FootkerchiefNote Added: 0004084
2010-04-18 11:41FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0004084bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0004084#r1366
2010-04-18 12:57swamp donkeyNote Added: 0004094
2010-04-22 23:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001446
2010-04-23 13:09FootkerchiefSummaryLabors missing from VPL at embark, possibly caused by failure to select expedition leader => Embark starts with no expedition leader, resulting in missing labors and blank nobles screen
2010-04-24 00:25Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-24 02:54TicNote Added: 0004866
2010-04-24 02:56TicNote Deleted: 0004866
2010-04-24 05:37random51Note Added: 0004871
2010-04-24 10:29lord_chaos22000Issue Monitored: lord_chaos22000
2010-04-24 17:36calcrafoordNote Added: 0004934
2010-04-24 17:37calcrafoordNote Edited: 0004934bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0004934#r1729
2010-04-24 18:10Logical2uNote Added: 0004936
2010-04-25 13:55calcrafoordNote Added: 0005031
2010-04-26 13:52DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005175
2010-04-26 13:54DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005177
2010-04-26 13:58DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0005175bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0005175#r1828
2010-04-26 17:09FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000735
2010-04-26 17:11FootkerchiefNote Added: 0005208
2010-04-26 20:27bertoliniIssue Monitored: bertolini
2010-04-27 00:25bertoliniNote Added: 0005297
2010-04-27 10:02ultimate carlNote Added: 0005349
2010-04-28 14:04FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Technical
2010-04-29 12:39DoctorZuberNote Added: 0005688
2010-05-03 19:20sombrenoteNote Added: 0006061
2010-05-05 07:19pollo2019Issue Monitored: pollo2019
2010-05-17 09:44jfsNote Added: 0006886
2010-05-23 21:09BeeskeeIssue Monitored: Beeskee
2010-05-25 11:45Taco_DanNote Added: 0007325
2010-05-25 12:04FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0000286
2010-05-25 12:04FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0000792
2010-05-25 12:06FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0000873
2010-05-25 12:06FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0000811
2010-05-25 12:08FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0000381
2010-05-25 12:08FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-05-25 12:09FootkerchiefRelationship replacedchild of 0000735
2010-05-25 12:09FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0000983
2010-05-25 12:09FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0001446
2010-05-25 12:10FootkerchiefRelationship deletedhas duplicate 0000381
2010-05-25 12:10FootkerchiefSticky IssueYes => No
2010-05-27 00:30greepNote Added: 0007373
2010-06-02 01:10Toady OneRelationship deletedchild of 0000735
2010-06-02 01:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000983
2010-06-02 01:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001446
2010-06-13 12:40FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008306
2010-06-29 07:38FootkerchiefCategoryTechnical => Technical -- General
2010-07-14 08:17FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0000983
2010-07-14 08:18FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0001446
2010-07-14 08:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000735
2010-07-14 08:25FootkerchiefNote Added: 0010236
2010-07-14 08:25FootkerchiefStatusacknowledged => resolved
2010-07-14 08:25FootkerchiefFixed in Version => 0.31.05
2010-07-14 08:25FootkerchiefResolutionopen => fixed
2010-07-15 01:30Toady OneNote Added: 0010321
2010-07-16 05:19Khym ChanurIssue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-07-16 10:09HazelrahBLIssue End Monitor: HazelrahBL
2010-07-20 09:09FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0000743
2010-07-22 09:31JinalealiaIssue End Monitor: Jinalealia
2010-07-29 04:00kaosdrachenIssue End Monitor: kaosdrachen
2010-08-03 12:11BeeskeeIssue End Monitor: Beeskee
2010-08-05 00:35ra2phoenixIssue End Monitor: ra2phoenix
2010-09-15 13:12MaDeR LevapIssue End Monitor: MaDeR Levap

Notes
(0000049)
ercdvs   
2010-04-01 17:58   
There is no 'nobles' section under jobs, they are found under the 'n' key. you assign dwarves to the needed tasks.
(0000056)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-01 18:11   
(edited on: 2010-04-01 18:12)
I am well aware of that. what I am saying is when I pressed n for nobles, the screen was blank. there were no nobles, no expedition leader, no broker, nothing. It may be related, it may not.
(0000061)
ercdvs   
2010-04-01 18:17   
yes, i see what you mean. I don't think its a bug because nobody was assigned to those tasks yet. and I seam to elect a leader soon after i get there.
(0000065)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-01 18:32   
(edited on: 2010-04-01 18:33)
Oh it's a bug alright. v,p,l was only showing four labor groups (mining,healthcare,hauling,other jobs), not the 13 it's supposed to be showing. This makes the game effectively unplayable.

While I have been unable to reproduce it myself it has been mentioned on the forums and the wiki as happening to other people. I personally noticed that when this bug happened I also had the bug where the nobles screen was completely blank as well. I think they might be related.

The trick is going to be figuring out how to reproduce this.
(0000746)
taeraresh   
2010-04-03 19:17   
I have a save where this has happened, if it's needed for debugging or anything.
(0000776)
H. Monkey   
2010-04-03 21:05   
I came across this problem, too. Having trouble uploading save to dffd but will try again tomorrow.

I'm not sure this was a problem immediately on embark. I suspect that the labor categories only disappeared after a couple in-game months of play, but I have no way to be sure of that.

I haven't been able to reproduce the bug, either. I first assumed it was due to having an Elf for liaison or monarch, but redoing worldgen with the same seeds and then embarking fresh in the same location wasn't enough to recreate the problem. I also tried changing embark civ choices, abandon and then reclaim, and abandon and then picking different site.

Maybe this is something related to the personality of the dwarf who ought to be the initial mayor? Other than personalities, what else won't the same when you do a fresh world gen with the same seeds?

[the seeds:
Generating world using parameter set MEDIUM ISLAND
 Seed: 1520828808
 History Seed: 2518055877
 Name Seed: 1693486933
 Creature Seed: 2068202708
]
(0001395)
kaosdrachen   
2010-04-06 03:56   
I had this problem occur twice in two attempts - the second time after a completely fresh reinstall.
(0001423)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-06 06:54   
(edited on: 2010-04-06 06:57)
"what else won't (be) the same when you do a fresh world gen with the same seeds?" -H.Monkey

That, is an excellent question. I've seen this problem myself. ONCE. It appeared on the very first fort I ever built. I had a little conversation about it on the wiki mistakenly thinking it was correct behavior initially. After a short heated discussion I realized that what I was seeing was a bug, so with a friendly hand pointing me in the right direction I found my way here and reported it. I was being a bit too excited about the new release and failed to keep that save file, but I've been carefully watching for this bug to occur ever since. So far, no luck.

As serious as it is, I really do want to figure out what's causing it. But it's an elusive little bugger.
(0002082)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-08 10:26   
in the summary v p l should probably be in lower case to avoid any possible confusion.
(0002117)
anomaly   
2010-04-08 12:19   
+1 to confirmation. Modded humans to be the default playable race. When playing as a human civ, the crafting jobs menu and all nobles were missing.
(0002120)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-08 12:23   
keep the save if you can anomaly, this one is difficult to reproduce.
(0002423)
CyberGenesis   
2010-04-09 14:11   
(edited on: 2010-04-09 14:13)
I just had it happen to me...gen'd a medium region from the default list

EDIT: Didnt mod anything (using dwarves), playing the newest bug fix release as well (02)
(0002445)
Shoku   
2010-04-09 15:53   
(edited on: 2010-04-09 16:11)
Damn, I searched for this kind of thing before I made mine. Oh well.

I had been starting my forts by pressing space after the strike the earth message. I started another while avoiding this and got an expedition leader- and then started one where I did this and still got an expedition leader.

If a lot of you are pausing immediately to plan out your forts this might still be a some-of-the-time cause. My computer doesn't handle this whole process very gracefully so I won't be trying too frequently-
but the first time we don't have a leader without a pause we can discard this option.
(0002535)
CyberGenesis   
2010-04-10 02:02   
i have mine auto-save on start and pause on saves. So it's not that exclusively anyway
(0002614)
Mattasmack   
2010-04-10 11:16   
(edited on: 2010-04-10 12:44)
I just had this happen to me. It was the first world I generated with the new 0.31.02 version, no mods, no changes to the RAWs. I noticed it right after embark when I tried to get the fisherdwarf to stop fishing (interesting -- the dwarves are still capable of doing the labors not listed). The nobles screen is also empty.

Saving the game and reloading didn't fix the problem, so I uploaded the save to dffd: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2054 [^]

Edit: I should add that I chose 'embark now!' instead of 'prepare for the journey carefully', so I had the standard dwarf skills and equipment. (There's a current thread on the forum where some are speculating that choosing odd starting equipment can cause the problem.)
(0002618)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-10 11:29   
(edited on: 2010-04-11 03:30)
I verified the file above, it reproduces the vpl bug on my end as well. And at a random stroke of luck, it reproduced again for me in a new embark as well.

No mods, no raw changes, no graphics. The only thing I've done is change a few settings in init.txt and added a custom tileset.

And as before, I again have the same four labor categories and no nobles present at embark. So the two symptoms do seem to be related. If another save that reproduces this is needed just say the word and I'll upload mine.
(0002787)
Toady One   
2010-04-11 05:52   
Does the save dump a ton of messages about invalid ID numbers in your error log as well? I have it reporting that it thinks your civ is one of the underground animal people civs rather than a dwarven civ, which would explain the VPL list, but it looks like there are just massive problems with id numbers overall.
(0002790)
zante   
2010-04-11 06:14   
This is also happening to me, I used a predefined group for the embark but the last time I was missing an expedition leader. This happened when I went to reclaim a fortress.

Missing nobles screen
No military
Limited jobs to assign despite dwarves retaining initial expertise in non-existent skill etc...
(0002809)
Mattasmack   
2010-04-11 09:06   
(edited on: 2010-04-11 09:15)
Quote:
"Does the save dump a ton of messages about invalid ID numbers in your error log as well?"

Oh! Yes, yes it does. I hadn't looked at the errorlog before. I have about 20MB worth of "Load Game: Invalid <whatever> ID Number". I suppose that helps explain why the game was loading slowly, too.

For what it's worth, I tried abandoning the fortress and starting a new one associated with the same civ again. I did not get the bug. Same with reclaiming the bugged fortress.
(0002818)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-11 09:40   
(edited on: 2010-04-11 09:46)
I'm confused by my errorlog.txt. at first blush yes, it chock full of load game:invalid messages. But I noticed it's 22.2 MB of god knows what.

So I tried renaming it so that the game would create a new errorlog.txt for me specific for this vpl issue. I then loaded my vpl save, looked at a unit to verify the bug occured, saved, and exited out. It didn't create a new errorlog.txt So, I coped my backup, stripped the errorlog to be a blank file. and tried again. Nothing.

Finally, I looked at the dwarves I have on the screen, I looked at their names and compared them against the data in my renamed backup errorlog.txt. They're not the same dwarves.

So I'm all confuzzled now.
(0002836)
Mattasmack   
2010-04-11 10:46   
Quote:
"I'm confused by my errorlog.txt. at first blush yes, it chock full of load game:invalid messages. But I noticed it's 22.2 MB of god knows what.
...
Finally, I looked at the dwarves I have on the screen, I looked at their names and compared them against the data in my renamed backup errorlog.txt. They're not the same dwarves.

So I'm all confuzzled now."
--------------------------------------
That's odd. I looked through my errorlog.txt and I don't see any specific names at all. Just "Peasant", "Recruit", "Sasquatch", "Human", etc. (Some fun ones: "exalted cat", "Elf Drunk")

Errors always seem to be appended to errorlog.txt, so you might be looking at old errors from previous forts. Actually the file size suggests that too. I get a consistent 20MB worth of errors every time I load the bugged fort. If you have 22.2MB, that suggests you had about 2 MB worth of errors built up first from other forts.

But if you have a fort with the v,p,l bug that doesn't produce any errors upon load, that's different behavior from my game!

Toady, a suggestion: how about some date/time stamps in the errorlog? Maybe just on the first reported error during any operation, so that errorlog.txt doesn't get too bloated.
(0002839)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-11 10:59   
well like I said, replacing my errorlog with no file, or with an empty file, isn't creating anything at all, since the names don't match I'm not sure this error log has anything to do with my vpl bug.

very confused.
(0002855)
RiceMunk   
2010-04-11 12:24   
Not getting any errors related to the abovementioned save in my errorlog either.
On a related note, it seems that the dorfs actually do seem to have the labors related to their skills enabled (woodcutters cut wood, etc.) even if the labors aren't visibile in the vpl menu.
(0002879)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-11 14:22   
okay, well I've tried several different things trying to get something, ANYTHING to go into my errorlog, all to no success.

- I tried making a brand new clean install of dwarf fortress in a new directory
- I tried loading and saving out of two different saves known to produce this bug
- still not seeing anything in the errorlog

- trying further I activate several other known bugs attempting to get something, ANYTHING into my errorlog.txt
- still nothing
- DOUBLE-YOU-TEE-F

So either I'm missing something obvious, or this bug doesn't generate anything in the errorlog, and I'm having a hard time finding any bug that actually does now. *sigh*
(0003158)
xomg   
2010-04-12 17:13   
If you're using Windows Vista/7, ensure that you're placing the DF directory somewhere that you have permission to write to, such as your user directory or the desktop or something.

Check c:\users\[username]\appdata\local\virtualstore (or similar, it's been a while since I've booted into Windows) in case your error log is being written there instead.
(0003197)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-12 20:56   
nice try, but nope, that's not the issue. the whole game is in a folder on the desktop, and I'm always logged in as the admin account anyhow so there's no rights issues.

I do have some stuff in my errorlog. but when I tried to get it to give me a chean errorlog, it's not showing anything for this issue. I even tried a separate DF install, all of which I've already said above.
(0003253)
Misterstone   
2010-04-13 07:53   
I had this issue also. Three things stick out in my mind as significant in that game:

1) It was in a world with custon worldgen parameters.

2) This world had the odd issue of "no trade" tag being added to neighboring civilizations for all sites above a certain latitude on the world map, no matter how close the site was to a human or dwarf settlement.

3) I used the "Start now!" option.

4) The dwarves not only were missing VPL labor options, they also had that weird bug where they were reincarnations of megabeasts or something and had massive kill lists, in addition to being 400+ years old, according to VZK.
(0003268)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-13 08:57   
(edited on: 2010-04-13 08:58)
^^^ Number 4 is interesting. See 0000381, "Adventurer is a reincarnation of a megabeast?"
(0003271)
SirPenguin   
2010-04-13 09:08   
I've heard of number 4 happening in DF mode before - some guy claimed a migrant came to his fortress and had a massive kill list. Hmm. Definitely agree that creature IDs are bugging out somewhere
(0003318)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-13 13:32   
(edited on: 2010-04-13 13:33)
Misterstone, can you reproduce the bug by regenerating the world and embarking at the same location?
(0003328)
Misterstone   
2010-04-13 14:36   
I'm sorry, I deleted the old save when a new version came out, I don't know what the seed was, and I haven't seen this come up again. I assumed it wasn't very rare because other people had heard of the bug when I first reported it. :(
(0004068)
swamp donkey   
2010-04-18 11:07   
I've had this issue too, but, really no nothing about trouble shooting. Would it help if I loaded my save up?
(0004084)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-18 11:39   
(edited on: 2010-04-18 11:41)
swamp donkey: yes, if you have a save that, when loaded, has labors missing from the menu, it might be helpful to upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

Although it might not be necessary -- judging from Toady's comment above, he might need a save prior to embarking or something.
(0004094)
swamp donkey   
2010-04-18 12:57   
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2144 [^]
Theres the save, left a few notes about it too. Good luck.
(0004871)
random51   
2010-04-24 05:37   
SirPenguin, I've had migrants with very large kill lists. I just assumed they had a life prior to migrating to my fortress. If they were the only marksdwarf in a 40d fortress before migrating to my fortress they could have a very long kill list.
(0004934)
calcrafoord   
2010-04-24 17:36   
(edited on: 2010-04-24 17:37)
My leader died pretty early on and a new one hasn't been automatically appointed. This means there's no broker, no bookkeeper, etc..

Would a save help?
(0004936)
Logical2u   
2010-04-24 18:10   
Calcrafoord, that's a different issue - see 0000141
(0005031)
calcrafoord   
2010-04-25 13:55   
Ah, thanks! That indeed looks more like it.
(0005175)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-26 13:52   
(edited on: 2010-04-26 13:58)
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2239 [^]

Here's another file that exhibits this behavior since this issue is still open. Nobles screen is completely blank, and all labor groups are missing except for mining, healthcare, hauling, and other jobs.

no entries are added to the errorlog on loading or saving this file. I can't say if they were created earlier when originally embarking to the location.

On saving back out of this file the game tends to freeze up temporarily (it does recover). This may be a symptom of something.

Examining my dwarves does not reveal any history of killing. I did notice one minor oddity however. All seven dwarves have the following line in their description.

"He is a citizen of He."

or

"She is a citizen of She."

I'm thinking this might be another symptom.
(0005177)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-26 13:54   
You might want to go ahead and add a relationship to 0000141. They're separate issues yes, but this one consistently causes 0000141 as well, so there may be clues in one to fix the other.
(0005208)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-26 17:11   
^^^ Yeah, probably a good idea.

I just came across 0000735 -- apparently loading a game immediately after generating a new world can result in corrupt ID numbers. Possibly related.
(0005297)
bertolini   
2010-04-27 00:25   
This same problem happened to me. I could still change professions for dwarfs using Dwarf Therapist.

I abandoned the fortress, started a new one and reclaimed the site. The same thing happened. These were the only two times this has happened out of maybe 20 embarks.
(0005349)
ultimate carl   
2010-04-27 10:02   
Yet another player without a save, but confirming it also happened to me. First time it's happened to me in about six games. Was in a custom parameter Medium Region, and I had the missing labors bug as well. Like bertolini, however, I was able to change labors using Dwarf Therapist, just not through menus in-game.
(0005688)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-29 12:39   
"He is a citizen of He."

or

"She is a citizen of She."

Next time someone sees this bug please check the thoughts on your dwarves and see if they have these lines as well. This might mean something.
(0006061)
sombrenote   
2010-05-03 19:20   
I had this bug after selecting a custom profession design. Another issue that was even though I had made some beds, and they were in the stock yard, I was unable to place any of the beds because the dwarves did not have access to them.
(0006886)
jfs   
2010-05-17 09:44   
Confirmed in 0.31.04 with a freshly generated world.
(0007325)
Taco_Dan   
2010-05-25 11:45   
I got this too, but the only category missing was crafting.
(0007373)
greep   
2010-05-27 00:30   
Had the bug too. Notably, my profession for the undoubtedly expedition leader was "trader" as I put all social skills on that dwarf. Never had a problem with any other profession.
(0008306)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-13 12:40   
Is anyone still getting this problem in 31.06?
(0010236)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-14 08:25   
Reminder sent to: Toady One

Hey Toady -- your note at 0000735:0007558 said that this bug is unrelated, but they both involved an errorlog full of Invalid ID Number stuff, and we stopped getting corroboration of this report (and 0001446) after the fix for 0000735 was released. I'm marking this bug as fixed too.
(0010321)
Toady One   
2010-07-15 01:30   
I guess it could also be related to that raw-indexing stuff that was messing up the reactions in some roundabout way, though I don't specifically remember reindexing any positions there. Still, yeah, if it's gone it's gone, and it'll come up again if it's not, he he he.