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0000178Dwarf FortressAdventure Mode -- Stealthpublic2010-04-02 14:122014-07-15 07:36
PencilinHand 
Toady One 
lowminoralways
resolvedfixed 
Fuijitsu Lifebook T4220Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005SP3
 
0.40.01 
0000178: Megabeasts and other creatures ignore sneaking....
While sneaking Megabeasts seem to always be able to see you. The same applies with creatures that you encounter on the travel screen. Even if you get away from them and start sneaking they always still see you. NOTE: This is not the same as always being discovered or spotted.
Hide from a Megabeast or the creature(s) in a random travel encounter and they will still path to and fight you. But hiding and sneaking seems to work correctly on other native populations in both cases.
I have tested this from novice to master ambusher and it always reproduces. This might be a new feature but it is still showing my adventurer as sneaking successfully even though the enemies are pathing to and fighting him in out of the way places.
ambush, Fixed in 0.40.01?, megabeast, Sneak
related to 0001203resolved Toady One might tame animals prematurely detect ambushers in some cases? 
parent of 0002914resolved Footkerchief Sometimes attacking creatures while sneaking will not break you out of sneak mode 
related to 0000975new  Animals steal items from stealthed invaders 
Issue History
2010-04-02 14:12PencilinHandNew Issue
2010-04-05 15:33BMacZeroNote Added: 0001238
2010-04-05 17:30PencilinHandNote Added: 0001264
2010-04-13 14:17FootkerchiefNote Added: 0003326
2010-04-13 14:22FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0003326bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003326#r1084
2010-04-13 21:37PencilinHandNote Added: 0003396
2010-04-13 21:41PencilinHandNote Edited: 0003396bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003396#r1107
2010-04-15 11:40FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001203
2010-04-15 11:40FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Adventure Mode -- Stealth
2010-04-15 11:42FootkerchiefNote Added: 0003732
2010-04-15 11:42FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0003732bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0003732#r1232
2010-04-15 16:47LacTag Attached: megabeast
2010-04-15 16:47LacTag Attached: ambush
2010-04-15 16:47LacTag Attached: Sneak
2010-04-20 01:49Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-08-01 13:17FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002914
2011-08-02 11:15FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000975
2014-01-27 13:03FootkerchiefTag Attached: Fixed in 0.34.12?
2014-01-27 13:03FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024403
2014-07-07 22:23FootkerchiefTag RenamedFixed in 0.34.12? => Fixed in 0.40.01?
2014-07-09 19:38FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006810
2014-07-12 09:35thvazNote Added: 0025985
2014-07-13 13:06UristDaVinciNote Added: 0026195
2014-07-15 07:33FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0001203
2014-07-15 07:33FootkerchiefRelationship deletedrelated to 0006810
2014-07-15 07:36FootkerchiefNote Added: 0026468
2014-07-15 07:36FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2014-07-15 07:36FootkerchiefFixed in Version => 0.40.01
2014-07-15 07:36FootkerchiefResolutionopen => fixed
2014-07-15 07:36FootkerchiefAssigned To => Toady One

Notes
(0001238)
BMacZero   
2010-04-05 15:33   
It appears the enemy still cannot "see" you, as I was able to [t]ravel away even though the bronze collosus I was fighting was only a few tiles away.
(0001264)
PencilinHand   
2010-04-05 17:30   
It is my expectation that I should be "discovered" before an enemy starts to attack me. This did not seem to be the case. Furthermore, on occasion, I have found it possible to continue sneaking long after I have started engaging something.
(0003326)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-13 14:17   
(edited on: 2010-04-13 14:22)
In my experience, this isn't specific to megabeasts or ambushes or anything -- anyone's who's targeting/chasing you when you start sneaking never actually loses sight of you. And ranged weapon users shoot at you while you're sneaking even if they never saw you not-sneaking.

(0003396)
PencilinHand   
2010-04-13 21:37   
(edited on: 2010-04-13 21:41)
It is my experience that megabeasts often target you and come after you even if you are sneaking long before you draw close to them. They pursue without having ever spotted my adventurers. Some of the behavior I have seen may very well be game play changes but I don't think everything is kosher as they say.

(0003732)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-15 11:42   
Oh yeah, I didn't mean that what I described is intended behavior. Sneaking definitely has some bugs.

(0024403)
Footkerchief   
2014-01-27 13:03   
Possibly fixed in the upcoming release due to the sneaking rewrite.
(0025985)
thvaz   
2014-07-12 09:35   
Just tried this on a mountain titan, and he couldn't see me until I exposed myself, so I think it was fixed. Maybe you want to try more tests.
(0026195)
UristDaVinci   
2014-07-13 13:06   
FYI for people testing in 0.40.xx, note that some creatures (night creatures in particular) have blood-vision and can detect you through walls.
(0026468)
Footkerchief   
2014-07-15 07:36   
Please PM me on the forums if this bug isn't actually fixed.