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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0002323Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Constructions (walls etc)public2010-06-14 00:062016-07-22 21:16
Reportercognitive 
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformpcOSvistaOS Versionsp 2
Product Version0.31.04 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002323: Mason skill not increased by building walls and other constructions
Descriptionwhen building walls (just build over 2000 spaces worth) no mason gained experience. when building doors/furniture they do.
Steps To Reproducebuild walls
Additional Information
TagsHoldover from 40d?, Intentional/Expected?
Relationships
related to 0002948new  Stone hauling/construction doesn't increase strength 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-06-14 00:06cognitiveNew Issue
2010-06-14 02:18CrytenNote Added: 0008398
2010-06-14 05:28Rafal99Note Added: 0008401
2010-06-14 05:32FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008402
2010-06-14 05:32FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-14 13:24cognitiveNote Added: 0008424
2010-06-14 19:59CrytenNote Added: 0008447
2010-06-14 20:01smjjamesNote Added: 0008448
2010-06-14 20:08FootkerchiefTag Detached: Intentional?
2010-06-14 20:09FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008449
2010-06-14 20:09FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-06-14 20:09FootkerchiefResolutionopen => no change required
2010-06-14 20:09FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-08-04 08:21FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief =>
2010-08-04 08:21FootkerchiefStatusresolved => needs feedback
2010-08-04 08:21FootkerchiefResolutionno change required => reopened
2010-08-04 08:21FootkerchiefStatusneeds feedback => new
2010-08-04 08:23FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002948
2010-08-04 08:25FootkerchiefSummarybuilding walls does not increase mason level => Mason skill not increased by building walls and other constructions
2010-08-04 10:09dree12Tag Attached: Holdover from 40d?
2010-08-04 10:09dree12Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2010-08-04 11:32king doomNote Added: 0011496
2010-08-15 17:28Lord ByteNote Added: 0011820
2016-07-22 21:16LociNote Added: 0035677
2016-07-22 21:16LociStatusnew => resolved
2016-07-22 21:16LociResolutionreopened => fixed
2016-07-22 21:16LociAssigned To => Loci

Notes
(0008398)
Cryten   
2010-06-14 02:18   
I believe mansonry does not cover the bulding of objects, thats Architecture, which dosnt have a skill growth pattern.
No change required.
(0008401)
Rafal99   
2010-06-14 05:28   
Architecture covers bulding objects that need an architect (bridges and furnaces for example). Building stone walls used to give experience in mason skill. I think my masons had no problem with it in a fortress I played in 0.31.03, possibly requires some specific circumstances.
(0008402)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-14 05:32   
Building stone walls used to give experience in mason skill. I think my masons had no problem with it in a fortress I played in 0.31.03, possibly requires some specific circumstances.

Nope, I don't think it's ever worked that way.
(0008424)
cognitive   
2010-06-14 13:24   
in 40d i built a large wall with about 10 dwarves and they all had leveled up greatly, will check again later tonight
(0008447)
Cryten   
2010-06-14 19:59   
I built a wall as a way of testing this in 40d13. The wall was aprox 250 tiles wide built with 5 dwarves while two dwarves minded to provide stone. This took 1 and a half seaons to complete. No skillups of any kind where recorded outside of mining and coversational skills. I checked each individuals skills.

Architecture and building of buildings does not contribute to masonry skillups.
(0008448)
smjjames   
2010-06-14 20:01   
@Cryten: Yep, otherwise you would end up with most of your dwarves being masons from just building your megaproject.
(0008449)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-14 20:09   
Thanks for testing that, Cryten.
(0011496)
king doom   
2010-08-04 11:32   
If it is intentional, it's a very bad descision. Building a wall isn't just stacking rocks on top of each other, bricklaying is a skill, and with practise you get better at it, and since it's added to masonry, you should get skill increases in that.
(0011820)
Lord Byte   
2010-08-15 17:28   
I agree with king doom. Megaprojects should be rare cases, and not the norm to which you compare the entire game. So balancing it out for that is kind of ridiculous (plus that argument falls flat when miners DO gain skill increases from carving out that megaproject :))

I got one mason to build certain objects while most of my masons are tied up in building constructions. So it's ridiculous that they will never gain any skill in it (Another solution is to make carving rock objects a seperate skill (sculptor or something).
(0035677)
Loci   
2016-07-22 21:16   
Building constructions is now an unskilled labor separate from the mason skill.