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0002545Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Tradepublic2010-07-02 14:142011-04-04 09:52
Reportertoybasher 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.08 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002545: Traders won't accept stolen goods from a different civilization, but will request those goods in a counteroffer
DescriptionTrying to make profit from elves (stealing stuff and re-selling it to dwarves dont have any human caravans for some reason)

Its not working, why cant I sell it?
Steps To Reproduce
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Relationships
related to 0000783acknowledged Footkerchief Elves buy and sell products with IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL due to JUSTIFIED_IF_SELF_DEFENSE 
has duplicate 0004307resolved Footkerchief Traders suggest stolen goods in counteroffer 
related to 0004489new  Stolen seeds not cookable after reclaiming fortress 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-07-02 14:14toybasherNew Issue
2010-07-02 14:21smjjamesNote Added: 0009539
2010-07-02 14:30FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009540
2010-07-02 14:31DwarfuNote Added: 0009541
2010-07-02 14:31DwarfuNote Edited: 0009541bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0009541#r3681
2010-07-02 14:33DwarfuIssue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-07-02 14:41toybasherNote Added: 0009543
2010-07-02 14:45smjjamesNote Added: 0009545
2010-07-02 14:46smjjamesNote Edited: 0009545bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0009545#r3683
2010-07-02 15:35FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009548
2010-07-02 16:15QuietustNote Added: 0009549
2011-02-16 19:07jfsNote Added: 0015142
2011-03-22 11:42FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004307
2011-04-04 09:52FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0004307
2011-04-04 09:52FootkerchiefSummaryTraders wont accept stolen goods from a different civilization => Traders won't accept stolen goods from a different civilization, but will request those goods in a counteroffer
2011-04-04 09:52FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000783
2011-04-10 11:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004489
2018-04-13 13:09HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0009539)
smjjames   
2010-07-02 14:21   
Toybasher, maybe you should post the questions in the DF questions forum? Just saying as the insane dwarf not suiciding one could have been asked there.

Anyways, I'm not sure if this is normal or not. Just what is it that you're stealing from the elves and reselling to the dwarves?
(0009540)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-02 14:30   
In what way is it not working? Did you get a response from the traders? Please try to provide more information when making bug reports.
(0009541)
Dwarfu   
2010-07-02 14:31   
How exactly can you not sell it?
What items/types are involved?

Can you not move the items to the depot?
Do they not show up on the trade lists?

Are the items forbidden?
Is there a noble mandate to not trade in those goods?

As always, your 'reports' leave something to be desired. Please follow-up with more detail.
(0009543)
toybasher   
2010-07-02 14:41   
They show up red, like they are stolen (they ARE indeed stolen, just why cant I sell them to the dwarves a different civilazation? and the wiki... Red Items have been seized from another caravan and cannot be traded as is; you will need to decorate them or turn them into other items for them to become "valid" trading items. However, usually a caravan from a different civilization will accept stolen goods without changing them first

Source: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Trading#Trading_cue_colors#ixzz0sZ0ZjSnZ [^]
(0009545)
smjjames   
2010-07-02 14:45   
(edited on: 2010-07-02 14:46)
Did you try decorating them and see if that works?

Really though, you aren't going to make much profit off of crappy elven goods.

Also, maybe you could answer the other questions? The bug reports need as much information as possible in them.
(0009548)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-02 15:35   
Have you TRIED selling them? Please answer all of Dwarfu's questions.
(0009549)
Quietust   
2010-07-02 16:15   
Have you considered the possibility that the aforementioned statement on the wiki is wrong (or possibly extremely outdated)?
(0015142)
jfs   
2011-02-16 19:07   
I stole some Golden Salve barrels from the elves and couldn't select them for trade to the humans.

However, the humans made a counteroffer to my trade that did include some of those salve barrels. I could trade them, I just couldn't mark them for trade. This might be a separate bug.