Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker - Dwarf Fortress
View Issue Details
IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0003677Dwarf FortressItemspublic2010-11-19 12:442014-07-12 17:48
ReporterQuietust 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.18 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0003677: Ammunition too large/heavy
DescriptionA single stack of 25 iron arrows/bolts weighs 29Γ, making a single arrow/bolt weigh over a kilogram. The density of iron seems to indicate that an arrow is about 150 cubic centimeters in size, which appears to match the [SIZE:150] in item_ammo.txt.

If the arrow shaft was 1cm in diameter (over 3/8 inch, even bigger than medieval arrows in real life), that would make the arrow about 191 centimeters long; assuming a more reasonable 100 centimeter length, this would put the shaft's diameter at 1.4cm, over half an inch.

There's also the fact that metal ammunition is treated as being made of solid metal - while this might be reasonable for crossbow bolts, it makes no sense whatsoever for arrows.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
TagsIntentional/Expected?
Relationships
related to 0000510new  Striking with stacked ammo gives a momentum bonus but no contact area penalty 
related to 0005516resolved Toady One Absurdly Powerful Bolts/Arrows 
has duplicate 0007167resolved Dwarfu Stacks of arrows and bolts are overbearingly heavy. 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-11-19 12:44QuietustNew Issue
2010-11-19 12:51QuietustNote Added: 0014025
2010-11-19 13:52Logical2uRelationship addedrelated to 0000510
2010-11-19 14:03FootkerchiefNote Added: 0014026
2010-11-19 14:04FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2010-11-19 14:46PirateNote Added: 0014027
2012-08-27 15:22hvIssue Monitored: hv
2012-08-27 21:42kwielandNote Added: 0023497
2012-09-11 21:05FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0023497bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0023497#r8797
2014-07-12 17:22DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0007167
2014-07-12 17:48FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005516

Notes
(0014025)
Quietust   
2010-11-19 12:51   
Also, arrows and bolts probably shouldn't be the same size.
(0014026)
Footkerchief   
2010-11-19 14:03   
These numbers may have been fudged to get ranged damage into the right ballpark.
(0014027)
Pirate   
2010-11-19 14:46   
It's also an issue in adventure mode. When carrying around 50 or so bolts/arrows, your adventurer is slowed down quite a bit by their weight. And 50 is not so much for a long trip (at least from my experience).

If they're heavy because of the damage they're supposed to inflict maybe they should fly faster ?
(0023497)
kwieland   
2012-08-27 21:42   
(edited on: 2012-09-11 21:05)
related to 0005516?