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0003708Dwarf FortressUndeathpublic2010-11-21 12:512012-03-30 02:11
Reporterhackbart 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.18 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.34.07 
Summary0003708: Ghost names that can't be engraved on a slab and nameless slab engravings
DescriptionI have two violent ghosts whose names aren't available to be engraved on slab. I had a lot of corpses, so there are a lot of names available at the craftsdwarfs shop, but not these two, so there's no way to get rid of these two ghosts.
Instead, the list at the craftsdwarfs shop shows two entries without a name, like
" (Engrave Memorial)" instead of "Urist Popurist (Engrave Memorial)". It was possible to engrave an build these slabs, (it showed just "This is a Memorial to." instead of "This is a Memorial to Urist Popurist."), but it didn't help to satisfy the ghosts.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional InformationThe site was previously reclaimed once.
TagsSave Included, Save Needs Testing
Relationships
has duplicate 0003769resolved Footkerchief No Memorial for dead caraven guard 
has duplicate 0004252resolved Dwarfu Restless spirit unable to be put to rest. 
has duplicate 0004499resolved Footkerchief Missing creature names in memorial slab list in workshop 
has duplicate 0004495resolved Knight Otu The ghost won't go away 
has duplicate 0005820resolved Footkerchief Ghosts in jail cannot be removed 
related to 0003611resolved Toady One Memorial slab with no name. 
related to 0005130resolved Toady One Magma-destroyed corpses are always "missing," can't carve slab to prevent ghosts 
related to 0005755resolved Toady One Caravan Guard Ghosts are still not appearing for slabs 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-11-21 12:51hackbartNew Issue
2010-11-21 13:27Logical2uRelationship addedchild of 0003611
2010-11-22 23:03nordakNote Added: 0014160
2010-11-27 17:59CoriantumrNote Added: 0014264
2010-11-27 18:00CoriantumrNote Edited: 0014264bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0014264#r5432
2010-11-27 18:00CoriantumrNote Edited: 0014264bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0014264#r5433
2010-12-02 07:46FootkerchiefCategoryGeneral => Undeath
2010-12-03 09:51QuietustNote Added: 0014389
2010-12-03 11:26FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003769
2010-12-20 13:24QuilNote Added: 0014647
2010-12-31 11:41zweiNote Added: 0014763
2010-12-31 11:41zweiIssue Monitored: zwei
2011-01-03 15:05SundayNote Added: 0014779
2011-01-06 11:12sombrenoteNote Added: 0014806
2011-03-20 16:05DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0004252
2011-03-20 16:06DwarfuNote Added: 0016392
2011-03-20 16:06DwarfuTag Attached: Save Included
2011-03-20 16:06DwarfuTag Attached: Save Needs Testing
2011-03-20 17:24QuietustNote Added: 0016395
2011-04-11 14:21FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0004499
2011-04-11 14:22FootkerchiefNote Added: 0017304
2011-04-11 15:47agNote Added: 0017308
2011-04-11 15:49agNote Edited: 0017308bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0017308#r6432
2011-04-11 15:50agNote Edited: 0017308bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0017308#r6433
2011-04-12 02:12agNote Added: 0017312
2011-04-15 00:00agNote Added: 0017384
2011-09-30 13:41MightyRavenDarkNote Added: 0018771
2011-10-05 18:51blackkatNote Added: 0018785
2011-12-18 02:59Knight OtuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0004495
2012-02-22 20:02FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0003611
2012-02-22 20:02FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005130
2012-02-26 11:47BuglistIssue Monitored: Buglist
2012-03-04 16:18ToadChildNote Added: 0021087
2012-03-04 16:21ToadChildNote Edited: 0021087bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0021087#r7853
2012-03-05 20:37misko27Note Added: 0021156
2012-03-07 07:03barconisNote Added: 0021208
2012-03-11 22:20AdeleneDawnerNote Added: 0021395
2012-03-19 01:47AisherNote Added: 0021582
2012-03-27 03:52StebIssue Monitored: Steb
2012-03-27 05:23Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2012-03-27 05:23Toady OneFixed in Version => Next Version
2012-03-27 05:23Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2012-03-27 05:23Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2012-03-27 23:11BuglistIssue End Monitor: Buglist
2012-03-28 03:42StebIssue End Monitor: Steb
2012-03-30 02:11zweiIssue End Monitor: zwei
2012-04-02 08:42FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0005755
2012-04-21 16:57FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005820

Notes
(0014160)
nordak   
2010-11-22 23:03   
I get this after reclaim, I keep DF running 24/7 so I haven't loaded a save up to this bug.

Yea, no way to reclaim after a Tantrum Spiral. You will soon have 7 dead or dying dwarves, angry ghosts are nothing to scoff at.
(0014264)
Coriantumr   
2010-11-27 17:59   
(edited on: 2010-11-27 18:00)
I have a similar problem. I have a ghost of a dead swordsdwarf that I can't bury or memorialize. His name is not available for engraving onto a slab, and although his corpse is in the stocks list, I can't locate it anywhere. Zooming to it just leads me to an empty murky pool.

I suspect the corpse might have been destroyed by being frozen that murky pool, but I can't prove that.
(0014389)
Quietust   
2010-12-03 09:51   
The nameless memorial engravings are seemingly from killing the various civilian trolls that arrive with goblin sieges.
(0014647)
Quil   
2010-12-20 13:24   
I have a dead caravan guard that I can't bury because their corpse was destroyed by a freezing pool, and they came back as a ghost. When trying to memorialise them, I find that their name doesn't appear in the list.

I also have some memorials I can engrave for "", but there are more null entries than I have dead, unburied people, although I do have some dead war animals that might have something to do with that issue.
(0014763)
zwei   
2010-12-31 11:41   
I have the same issue: Three ghosts with corpses in river which can not be engraved to slabs because thier names are missing as well as six "nameless" engraves.
(0014779)
Sunday   
2011-01-03 15:05   
I have this problem too.

The ghost is obviously a dwarf (not a troll, as theorized above by Quietust), and was a military guard for the merchants. My theory is that the military guards for merchants (but not the merchants themselves) are generally nameless, and are only granted a name upon their conversion to undeath. Thus, their name isn't available under the memorial slab because at the time of their demise they still didn't have a name.
(0014806)
sombrenote   
2011-01-06 11:12   
I just have to say that no dwarf should ever have to memorialize a foreign ghost. That is like having to memorialize every goblin one kills. If anything, the foreign ghost might act more like a poltergeists and should be excised by a dwarven priest or something.
(0016392)
Dwarfu   
2011-03-20 16:06   
rpetiger has this save for a ghost name that can't be engraved after a reclaim:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4003 [^]
(0016395)
Quietust   
2011-03-20 17:24   
Sunday: I wasn't talking about troll ghosts - I was talking about memorials, since the blank entries consistently appear in groups between groups of goblin invaders within the memorial engraving list.

Pretty much every historical figure that died at your fortress is eligible for memorials - megabeasts can also be selected, and likely even killed caravan pack animals.
(0017304)
Footkerchief   
2011-04-11 14:22   
AbuDhabi posted these at 0004499:
Screenshot: http://i56.tinypic.com/nqcp5l.jpg [^]
Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4189 [^]
(0017308)
ag   
2011-04-11 15:47   
(edited on: 2011-04-11 15:50)
I did some investigation today, and it seems that only historical figures can be engraved on a memorial - and the ghosts for some reason are not in the list of historical figures of the Legends mode. Maybe the guards are erroneously spawned only as units, but not as historical figures?..

This list can also be used to find out the probable origin of those nameless engravings - in my case it is 3 "nameless yak cows", one killed by goblins, and two crushed by a bridge.
(0017312)
ag   
2011-04-12 02:12   
Here is my save with this issue, by the way:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4202 [^]
(0017384)
ag   
2011-04-15 00:00   
And to further confirm my analysis, I made a memory hack that makes the ghosts engravable by stealing a historical figure record from a dead goblin. No unforseen negative effects noticed after two evenings of play.
(0018771)
MightyRavenDark   
2011-09-30 13:41   
I am also experiencing this with a murderous ghost and it currently has brought my fort to a complete halt, for fear of losing a legendary or noble dwarf and possibly causing a tantrum spiral. The reason for being unable to engrave slabs and memorialize the dwarf ghost is caused by the body being completely destroyed, as was the case for a very stupid dwarf who happened to wander under my atom smasher while I was trash compacting about 1000 units of refuse. It seems you can only engrave slabs to dwarves whose bodies either are still present on the map, or who are still alive.
(0018785)
blackkat   
2011-10-05 18:51   
I had the same issue in Fortress mode. I reclaimed my fortress after a bunch of my dwarves had died. I had dead bodies everywhere. However, about ten ghosts ended up being raised. I couldn't build memorials for all of the ghosts, but I could bury the bodies (the bodies were still all available).
(0021087)
ToadChild   
2012-03-04 16:18   
(edited on: 2012-03-04 16:21)
I also have this issue. One of my miners found the magma sea the hard way. He was on fire and partway up the stairs before he died. His corpse continued burning, and eventually disappeared entirely. Now I have a haunted mineshaft to nowhere.

I am running 34.04, for what it is worth.
(0021156)
misko27   
2012-03-05 20:37   
Exact same thing happened to me. However I reclaimed that fortress again, and the violent miner (Sibrek Solominder), appeared as a engraveble again.
(0021208)
barconis   
2012-03-07 07:03   
This also happened to me in my current fort (34.02 -> 34.04 -> 34.05); the dwarf arrived in wave 9 and was a normal citizen. I think he got burned up by magma, but there's no way to tell. Never abandoned, so never reclaimed, it just happened during normal play.
(0021395)
AdeleneDawner   
2012-03-11 22:20   
It appears that being a historical figure doesn't stop a ghost from being un-slab-able. I have a dwarf ghost (I think he was a caravan guard, but I'm not sure) that doesn't show up on the engraving list (only thing on there are two kobolds; it's a young fort) and he just transformed into a werepanda, which I assume wouldn't be possible if he weren't a historical figure.
(0021582)
Aisher   
2012-03-19 01:47   
Same problem :(

my ghost was a historical figure
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8911/56107740.png [^]

atomsmash his corpse after siege. cant engrave slab now

here is a save http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=5939&f=region1.zip [^]