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0003758Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2010-11-30 06:112010-12-09 10:58
ReporterOgg the Blinky Sock 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionduplicate 
PlatformiMac IntelOSOS X w/ WineOS Version10.6.5
Product Version0.31.18 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0003758: Dwarf needing lung surgery is not 'rested' when she becomes 'Winded'.
DescriptionDwarf needs surgery, very sad situation, surrounded by her three children. Has been fed, has been given water. No other perceptible cause for her to be not rested. Starts to flash white 'X' unconscious/winded symbol when being moved. Has trouble breathing, according to status, intermittently is also 'Winded'.
Steps To ReproduceImmoral.
Additional Information
TagsNo tags attached.
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duplicate of 0003080resolved Toady One Surgeon cancels surgery: patient not resting 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-11-30 06:11Ogg the Blinky SockNew Issue
2010-11-30 10:07FootkerchiefNote Added: 0014311
2010-11-30 10:07FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-11-30 23:34ethanbNote Added: 0014333
2010-12-01 05:08Ogg the Blinky SockNote Added: 0014336
2010-12-01 05:34Ogg the Blinky SockNote Added: 0014337
2010-12-01 06:16FootkerchiefNote Added: 0014338
2010-12-01 15:19Ogg the Blinky SockNote Added: 0014352
2010-12-01 17:35Jiri PetruNote Added: 0014355
2010-12-02 07:51FootkerchiefNote Added: 0014362
2010-12-02 07:51FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0003080
2010-12-02 07:51FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-12-02 07:51FootkerchiefResolutionopen => duplicate
2010-12-02 07:51FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-12-09 10:58DwarfuTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

Notes
(0014311)
Footkerchief   
2010-11-30 10:07   
is not 'rested'

What does this mean? Does she never get the "Rest" job, or is she tired/exhausted when she stops being winded or something?
(0014333)
ethanb   
2010-11-30 23:34   
Sounds like a confusion in terminology?

"Winded" means "not getting enough oxygen to sustain the current activity" - if your dwarf needs lung surgery, it's probably because something's wrong with her lung, right? If she's having a hard time breathing then it should cause her to get winded even just lying in bed if it's bad enough.
(0014336)
Ogg the Blinky Sock   
2010-12-01 05:08   
No, there's a definite difference. I'm using the term from the health report. She continually had the 'Has Trouble Breathing' report, but would also become 'Winded' on top of that while being moved, causing the surgery attempt to be cancelled.

I ended up knocking over all the tables in the hospital to force the surgeon to perform the surgery while she was in bed. There had indeed been something wrong with her right lung, laceration by multiple fragments of floating (false) rib. Plus she had a broken left foot, a broken right upper arm, broken lower left arm, three broken bones in her left hand, and two breaks in her upper left leg. Currently resting with severe blood loss and limb infections (due to all the time it took me to figure out how to get things working right). Two (I think) surgeries on the lung and rib, and nine suturing jobs overall. A triumph for dwarven emergency medicine, if she survives the infections.
(0014337)
Ogg the Blinky Sock   
2010-12-01 05:34   
:( She didn't.
(0014338)
Footkerchief   
2010-12-01 06:16   
I'm using the term from the health report. She continually had the 'Has Trouble Breathing' report, but would also become 'Winded' on top of that while being moved, causing the surgery attempt to be cancelled.

Those are basically the same thing. The health screen just uses different terminology.

What made you think that surgery was being canceled due to her being winded? What was the cancellation message?

Do you have a save demonstrating the problem? http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0014352)
Ogg the Blinky Sock   
2010-12-01 15:19   
No, I do not have a save. Sorry.

They may be basically the same thing, in some sense, but I do not think that they *are* the same thing.

I am reporting that the health screen was using BOTH terms *simultaneously* after the surgeon began moving the injured dwarf.

At that point, the surgery would be canceled because the dwarf was not rested, as per hunger or thirst.

After finally being back in bed and/or immobile for a while, the 'Winded' designation would disappear.
(0014355)
Jiri Petru   
2010-12-01 17:35   
It's a known bug, I think. Surgeries are often canceled, unless the operating table is placed next to the resting dwarf's bed. Try building a table next to each bed in your hospital.

There used to be a report describing this, though I've only found this, which is somewhat similar yet different: 0003080
(0014362)
Footkerchief   
2010-12-02 07:51   
I am reporting that the health screen was using BOTH terms *simultaneously* after the surgeon began moving the injured dwarf.

Yeah, there's nothing weird about that. "Winded" means you're out of breath as a result of having trouble breathing. "Trouble breathing" is a lung condition, and "winded" is the resulting impaired status (which lowers speed and stuff).

At that point, the surgery would be canceled because the dwarf was not rested, as per hunger or thirst.

I'm going to guess you mean "not resting" instead of "not rested", which makes this a duplicate of 0003080 as Jiri said.

In the future, please make sure to copy/paste all relevant announcements from the gamelog so that we can avoid this kind of confusion, and always get a save if you're observing a bug.