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0004637Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Petspublic2011-05-14 08:462017-12-16 16:27
king doom 
lethosor 
normalminoralways
acknowledgedreopened 
0.31.25 
0.40.13 
0004637: Elk birds starve to death trying to hatch eggs because of [GRAZER] tag.
Summary says it all. I caught and tamed a bunch of elk birds, made a pasture for them, added some hatching boxes, the females run to the hatching boxes, lay eggs and slowly starve to death trying to hatch them.
Catch elk birds. Put elk birds in pasture. Put nest box in pasture. Watch female elk birds starve to death.
Obviously this goes away if you remove the grazing tag from the raws.
0.31.25, animals, pasture
related to 0004113resolved Toady One Large grazers (elephants and giraffes) can't eat fast enough to keep from starving 
Issue History
2011-05-14 08:46king doomNew Issue
2011-05-14 09:30king doomTag Attached: 0.31.25
2011-05-14 09:30king doomTag Attached: animals
2011-05-14 09:31king doomTag Attached: pasture
2011-06-30 07:04Hieronymous AlloyIssue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2011-11-11 06:25jwest23Issue Monitored: jwest23
2014-04-06 11:23DwarfuCategoryDwarf Mode -- Interface, Animals => Creatures
2014-04-06 11:24DwarfuSummaryElk birds starve to death trying to hatch eggs. => Elk birds starve to death trying to hatch eggs because of [GRAZER] tag.
2014-04-06 11:25DwarfuNote Added: 0024676
2014-04-06 11:25DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu
2014-04-06 11:25DwarfuStatusnew => acknowledged
2014-04-06 11:26DwarfuCategoryCreatures => Dwarf Mode -- Pets
2015-01-03 11:58bjh21Note Added: 0031666
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004113
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefNote Added: 0031668
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefStatusacknowledged => resolved
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefFixed in Version => 0.40.13
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefResolutionopen => fixed
2015-01-03 13:41FootkerchiefAssigned ToDwarfu => Toady One
2015-07-01 15:45LociTag Attached: not fixed
2015-07-01 21:17lethosorAssigned ToToady One => lethosor
2015-07-01 21:17lethosorStatusresolved => acknowledged
2015-07-01 21:17lethosorTag Detached: not fixed
2015-07-01 21:17lethosorResolutionfixed => reopened
2015-07-02 12:51LociNote Added: 0032834
2017-10-21 05:13king doomNote Added: 0036801
2017-10-21 09:13FantasticDorfNote Added: 0036802
2017-10-21 09:15FantasticDorfNote Edited: 0036802bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0036802#r14864
2017-12-16 16:27mrmagolorNote Added: 0037335
2017-12-16 17:54HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0024676)
Dwarfu   
2014-04-06 11:25   
Acknowledging this - don't believe it requires a save.
(0031666)
bjh21   
2015-01-03 11:58   
I think the grazing fixes in 0.40.13 have fixed this. Five elk bird hatchlings just hatched in my vanilla 0.40.22 fortress (though the eggs were laid in an earlier version).
(0031668)
Footkerchief   
2015-01-03 13:41   
K, we'll call it fixed.

Please PM a manager on the forums (or reopen the report) if this problem is still present in the latest version.
(0032834)
Loci   
2015-07-02 12:51   
Confirmed in v0.40.24.

While they *may* survive if their eggs hatch and they don't immediately lay more, I had 3/3 starve in one year with unfertilized eggs. And that was with occasional flying critters scaring them halfway across the map. Dwarves would drag them back to their pasture and they would immediately return to their hunger strike atop the nest box.
(0036801)
king doom   
2017-10-21 05:13   
Still around as of 43.05
(0036802)
FantasticDorf   
2017-10-21 09:13   
(edited on: 2017-10-21 09:15)
Relation could be established to 0004018 and 0007933 since grazers don't path towards grass with the intention of eating it, as much as randomly meander and eat grass underneath their tile randomly.

A fix the player can do themselves is to raise grazer co-efficient then station the egg boxes over lush areas of grass to reduce consumption, but that workaround renders grazing pointless.

Or alternatively take the elk bird aside into a cage, feed with dwarves on cage feeding labours then release back into pasture onto the eggs, but that requires micromanagement.

(0037335)
mrmagolor   
2017-12-16 16:27   
Still present in 0.44.01.