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0004895Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Diplomacypublic2011-09-12 19:392011-09-12 21:55
UristMcDorf 
Dwarfu 
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0004895: Two diplomats at once
The dwarven liaison arrived, simultaneously with the dwarven caravan (as per current behavior). However, shortly after (a couple days, I think), the *human* diplomat arrives too.

The liaison went through the Conduct Meeting sequence with the mayor as per normal. The diplomat just wandered around, mostly back and forth between my meeting areas, never to the area of the mayors office. Worried that this might end with human diplomacy in tatters, I chained the mayor to his desk (via warren) and kept a close eye on his progress with the liaison.

After what seemed like an unusually long meeting (possibly for an unrelated reason - I made a long list of orders (40-50 items), and that step of the negotiations took most of the time), the liaison meeting finally finished up, and, probably a month after he arrived, the human was able to start his meeting, which fortunately finished quickly.
you got me..
Possibly related, or the root cause: The previous season, the human caravan arrived, and got no more than 10-15 steps before a large siege rolled in behind (and over) them. Current behavior is that the diplomat arrives a bit before or after the caravan; perhaps an ongoing siege causes the diplomat to reschedule to the next season? (in other words, possibly intended behavior).

However, I haven't been able to find anything here or elsewhere online that indicates two diplomats (or dip/liai) arriving at once is something expected, so reporting it as possible bug.

Also, my duke was available and idle most of the time, but was not approached by either representative (consistent with http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=3706, [^] but worth noting that that bug still applies even with multiple meetings in the mayor's queue)

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duplicate of 0003027resolved Toady One Diplomats not holding meetings 
Issue History
2011-09-12 19:39UristMcDorfNew Issue
2011-09-12 19:41UristMcDorfNote Added: 0018716
2011-09-12 19:42QuietustNote Added: 0018717
2011-09-12 20:10UristMcDorfNote Added: 0018718
2011-09-12 20:34UristMcDorfNote Edited: 0018718bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0018718#r7029
2011-09-12 21:55DwarfuNote Added: 0018720
2011-09-12 21:55DwarfuRelationship addedduplicate of 0003027
2011-09-12 21:55DwarfuStatusnew => resolved
2011-09-12 21:55DwarfuResolutionopen => duplicate
2011-09-12 21:55DwarfuAssigned To => Dwarfu

Notes
(0018716)
UristMcDorf   
2011-09-12 19:41   
bad link in additional info; this one will work: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=3706 [^]
(0018717)
Quietust   
2011-09-12 19:42   
There's nothing unusual about having multiple diplomats at the fortress at the same time. Back in 40d and earlier, it was quite common - if the diplomat's arrival was preempted by a siege, (s)he'd arrive during the next season, possibly at the same time as the diplomat from another civilization.
(0018718)
UristMcDorf   
2011-09-12 20:10   
(edited on: 2011-09-12 20:34)
In that case, feel free (managers) to close this as intended behavior. It is however worth noting that the wiki (and nothing else online that I've been able to find) makes no mention of this (edit: "this" meaning, sieges rescheduling diplomats), not even the 40d or 23a pages.

(0018720)
Dwarfu   
2011-09-12 21:55   
While the catalyst may be different, the root cause of meeting scheduling is the same as 0003027.