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0000532Dwarf FortressCombat -- Generalpublic2010-04-05 15:332014-07-21 16:29
ReporterHuggz 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilitysometimes
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.40.01 
Summary0000532: The fighter skill appears to have a negative affect.
DescriptionWhen tesed in the arena, as detailed in this thread:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53022.0;topicseen [^]

The fighter skill appears to have either a negative affect or such a small positive affect that even at grandmaster level the results of testing show a negative effect due to randomness.

It could be because the Fighter skill enables a more inefficient combat technique and is therefore unbalanced, or that it is simply broken. Either way it doesnt seem to be working as intended.
Steps To ReproduceArena testing of any identical creatures/groups, with one having the Fighter skill and one not having it, will usually end up with the non-fighters the victor.
Additional Information
Tagsbalance, combat, fighter
Relationships
related to 0000033resolved Toady One Bronze colossus, skeletal creatures, fleshballs, and others are impossible to kill 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-05 15:33HuggzNew Issue
2010-04-05 15:57QloosTag Attached: balance
2010-04-05 15:57QloosTag Attached: fighter
2010-04-08 11:50HuggzTag Attached: combat
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000033
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefNote Added: 0016949
2011-04-01 12:59FootkerchiefTag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uNote Added: 0019094
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uStatusnew => resolved
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uAssigned To => Logical2u
2011-12-09 14:12Logical2uTag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefAssigned ToLogical2u => Footkerchief
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefStatusresolved => acknowledged
2014-06-02 19:00FootkerchiefNote Added: 0024796
2014-07-19 08:07thvazNote Added: 0026946
2014-07-19 08:25thvazNote Edited: 0026946bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0026946#r10038
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefNote Added: 0027161
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefStatusacknowledged => resolved
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefFixed in Version => 0.40.01
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefResolutionunable to reproduce => fixed
2014-07-21 16:29FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief => Toady One

Notes
(0016949)
Footkerchief   
2011-04-01 12:59   
Reminder sent to: Huggz

Does this still hold true in 0.31.25? It would be helpful if you redid your tests.
(0019094)
Logical2u   
2011-12-09 14:12   
Resolving as unable to reproduce without further updates.
(0024796)
Footkerchief   
2014-06-02 19:00   
Reopening due to recent corroboration at 0003778:0024660.
(0026946)
thvaz   
2014-07-19 08:07   
(edited on: 2014-07-19 08:25)
Did various tests in the arena with the following configurations:

Group 1 -12 Human, Talented spearman,Grandmaster Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.
Group 2-12 Human, Talented spearman,no skill in Fighter,Skilled Shield and Dogde, no armor, shield and spear.

I tested five battles, in all of them group Group 1 won with about half of the fighters remaining. I think Fighter now has a positive influence.

The combat system changed in 0.40.01, so maybe it was fixed?
(0027161)
Footkerchief   
2014-07-21 16:29   
Thanks for testing!