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0006666Dwarf FortressAdventure Mode -- Combatpublic2014-07-08 10:082017-11-30 07:39
Reportersimonswerwer 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusassignedResolutionopen 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS Version8.1
Product Version0.40.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0006666: Trolls don't attack in adventure mode
DescriptionI'm guessing they're supposed to attack. I've been break-dancing in front of two trolls in separate worlds and they don't seem to care about my crazy skills anywhere.

Here's a save file (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/91013373/TrollDoesntAttack.rar [^]).
Steps To Reproduce1. Load the save.
2. Move towards the troll.
Additional Information
TagsNo tags attached.
Relationships
related to 0006547resolved Toady One Wolves passive in adventure mode. 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-07-08 10:08simonswerwerNew Issue
2014-07-08 13:29falsewallNote Added: 0025139
2014-07-08 13:36FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0006689
2014-07-08 13:37FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0006634
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0006547
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefResolutionopen => duplicate
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefRelationship deletedhas duplicate 0006689
2014-07-08 13:40FootkerchiefRelationship deletedrelated to 0006634
2014-08-09 15:50FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0006547
2014-08-09 15:52FootkerchiefStatusresolved => confirmed
2014-08-09 15:52FootkerchiefResolutionduplicate => open
2014-08-09 17:05TalvienoNote Added: 0028683
2014-08-09 17:30FootkerchiefNote Added: 0028684
2014-08-09 17:30FootkerchiefStatusconfirmed => needs feedback
2014-08-09 18:00smjjamesNote Added: 0028685
2014-08-09 18:01smjjamesNote Edited: 0028685bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028685#r10984
2014-08-09 18:08smjjamesNote Edited: 0028685bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028685#r10985
2014-08-09 18:21TalvienoNote Added: 0028686
2014-08-09 18:22TalvienoNote Edited: 0028686bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028686#r10987
2014-08-09 18:37smjjamesNote Added: 0028687
2014-08-09 18:38smjjamesNote Edited: 0028687bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028687#r10989
2014-08-09 20:45smjjamesNote Edited: 0028687bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028687#r10994
2014-08-11 07:41TalvienoNote Added: 0028794
2014-08-11 07:42TalvienoNote Edited: 0028794bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028794#r11057
2014-08-11 13:51SkidNote Added: 0028830
2014-08-11 15:40TalvienoNote Added: 0028838
2014-08-11 15:40TalvienoIssue Monitored: Talvieno
2014-08-11 16:14smjjamesNote Added: 0028840
2014-08-11 16:54TalvienoNote Added: 0028844
2014-08-11 16:55TalvienoNote Edited: 0028844bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028844#r11071
2014-08-14 17:06simonswerwerNote Added: 0029062
2014-08-14 17:06simonswerwerStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-08-15 11:48smjjamesNote Added: 0029101
2014-08-15 12:43smjjamesNote Edited: 0029101bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0029101#r11167
2015-02-08 02:41DetrosNote Added: 0032173
2017-11-29 13:09RobsoieNote Added: 0037101
2017-11-29 13:11RobsoieNote Edited: 0037101bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037101#r14958
2017-11-30 07:39FantasticDorfNote Added: 0037142
2018-01-08 19:38thvazIssue Monitored: thvaz
2018-04-16 17:09HuntthetrollIssue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0025139)
falsewall   
2014-07-08 13:29   
I can confirm this. Had the same thing happen in adventure mode. It wouldn't respond to my speaking with it either.
(0028683)
Talvieno   
2014-08-09 17:05   
Trolls are still passive in adventure mode.
(0028684)
Footkerchief   
2014-08-09 17:30   
A recent save would be helpful. Are these wild or domesticated trolls?
(0028685)
smjjames   
2014-08-09 18:00   
(edited on: 2014-08-09 18:08)
Probably the trolls in the goblin sites, which would count as domesticated, though I think 'civilized' might be a better term.

They'll sometimes attack back when you attack as well, but they don't attack on sight or anything.

A while back (version 40.5 anyway), I ran into a troll recruit, which I guess was a wild troll, which continued aggro.

Footkerchief, would a save from 40.05 be fine? After I do this prisioner rescue operation, I can post one.
(0028686)
Talvieno   
2014-08-09 18:21   
(edited on: 2014-08-09 18:22)
Domesticated trolls, in a goblin site. Can provide a save, yeah. Almost all of them are passive, but a few are at "no quarter" to begin with. They were killing the framerate, so I just ran through and slaughtered 150 or so of them. I think I only got half, and the rest of them just sat there silently.

Will upload a save in a bit.
(0028687)
smjjames   
2014-08-09 18:37   
(edited on: 2014-08-09 20:45)
I had a crash right after I did a wait one hour to get one of the kids to catch up, feh. So, I'll upload a save now, which is back to where I am trying to kill this demon.

It's version 40.05 and while I did give trolls the ability to talk and kobolds be able to speak normally, it's otherwise unchanged.

The trolls that I'm near are just ones which haven't been reduced to a quivering pile of jelly. Also, theres a bunch of trolls chasing around the demon and trying to attack it (they never do land a hit) and are friendly to me. Theres also apparently an insurrection going on. Theres a bunch of reports of 'I attacked me', no idea what's up with that.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9334 [^]

Edit: Doing blood drinking will REALLY rile them up.
(0028794)
Talvieno   
2014-08-11 07:41   
(edited on: 2014-08-11 07:42)
Possibly part of the same issue - minotaurs don't attack in adv. mode either. 40.07.
(0028830)
Skid   
2014-08-11 13:51   
Trogolodyes also fail to attack, and when I hack one of them to the death with an axe the rest of the pack only goes to "non-lethal" combat.
(0028838)
Talvieno   
2014-08-11 15:40   
Another possible addition: might it have something to do with how large. dangerous animals are terrified of dwarves in fort mode? Elephants for instance. Dwarves used to be afraid of them, but now they walk past them like they don't exist, and the elephants flee in terror.
(0028840)
smjjames   
2014-08-11 16:14   
Well yeah, there's the whole morale problems which affects all modes. That probably has to be fixed before we can really tell what's going on.
(0028844)
Talvieno   
2014-08-11 16:54   
(edited on: 2014-08-11 16:55)
Forgot the save. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmoldkxouxdxe50/gimli_trolls.zip [^] Here you are.

And, you mean 0007161? I would almost certainly say it's related to that, yes.
(0029062)
simonswerwer   
2014-08-14 17:06   
OP here. In my original 40.01 save, it was a wild troll I think, in the caverns outside a world gen dwarf fortress. He didn't move at all, just stood there frozen (but not petrified, I suspect).
(0029101)
smjjames   
2014-08-15 11:48   
(edited on: 2014-08-15 12:43)
Drinking blood doesn't seem to faze them in 40.08, or least they aren't responding to it.
(0032173)
Detros   
2015-02-08 02:41   
In 40.24, my adventurer I spawned in retired fort that was under siege of goblins and trolls was not attacked by said trolls. They were either just standing around or fighting goblins (0003685).
(0037101)
Robsoie   
2017-11-29 13:09   
(edited on: 2017-11-29 13:11)
In 44.02 this problem is still happening, trolls don't attack .
And worse : my companions AI do not attack them either.

I killed several of them and still neither the surviving trolls or my companions are joining the fight

Saved game :
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13246 [^]
(0037142)
FantasticDorf   
2017-11-30 07:39   
This report has a younger duplicate/relation within 0010031 since it precedes it in age.

Trolls are a [LARGE_PREDATOR] type yet troglodytes are not and similarly affected in the attached issue report above, wild intelligent & semi sapients would not attack the player compared to in this current report semi-sapients on sites.

Which seems to be a worsening of the behavior first noticed here.