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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000681Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2010-04-06 18:452012-03-17 07:12
ReporterRusAnon 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformWINEOSLinuxOS Version2.6.33
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.22 
Summary0000681: Legless/footless dwarfs are ignored by healthcare
DescriptionAny dwarf that lost his lower limbs completely is left on his own, even if moved to hospital.
Health status shows that no treatment needed, but 'standing ability is lost'.
They should at least get crutches to walk, right?
Steps To Reproduce1. Sever off leg or foot of any dwarf
2. Watch him lying in hospital for many years, doing nothing
Additional Information
Tags0.31.08, 0.31.13, 0.31.21, diagnosis, wounds
Relationships
related to 0000309confirmed Dwarfu Injured dwarves won't/can't rest 
has duplicate 0000730resolved Toady One Injured dwarf never carried to hospital 
has duplicate 0002373resolved Dwarfu Dwarf with nerve damage in leg never gets crutch, stays in bed forever 
has duplicate 0002935resolved Toady One Immobile injured dwarf left to rest on floor 
has duplicate 0003193resolved Footkerchief Dwarves rarely heal 
related to 0002437resolved Toady One Immobilized injured dwarfs are not rescued if not unconscious 
related to 0000459resolved Toady One Webbed injured dwarf unable to rest and thus cannot be diagnosed/hospitalised 
related to 0000094confirmed Toady One Injured dwarves not recovered, ignored by doctors, and/or don't get food/water 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-06 18:45RusAnonNew Issue
2010-04-06 23:17KataklistikaNote Added: 0001688
2010-04-07 12:13FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000730
2010-04-09 02:56VinceNote Added: 0002285
2010-04-09 02:56VinceIssue Monitored: Vince
2010-04-09 21:43bloodystumpIssue Monitored: bloodystump
2010-04-09 21:56SirPenguinNote Added: 0002511
2010-05-06 16:13Jiri PetruNote Added: 0006315
2010-05-06 16:14Jiri PetruNote Edited: 0006315bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0006315#r2364
2010-06-22 08:19MaXMCNote Added: 0008949
2010-06-22 08:20MaXMCTag Attached: 0.31.08
2010-06-22 08:20MaXMCTag Attached: diagnosis
2010-06-22 08:20MaXMCTag Attached: wounds
2010-06-22 18:16FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002437
2010-06-22 18:17FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002373
2010-06-23 22:32FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002453
2010-06-23 22:32FootkerchiefRelationship deletedparent of 0002453
2010-06-30 13:35FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000459
2010-07-02 02:49BriggsNote Added: 0009505
2010-07-02 08:33toybasherNote Added: 0009519
2010-07-03 10:51toybasherNote Added: 0009580
2010-07-07 14:20CreidiekiNote Added: 0009739
2010-07-26 11:03CreidiekiIssue Monitored: Creidieki
2010-07-29 06:10JimboOmegaNote Added: 0011241
2010-07-29 06:14JimboOmegaNote Edited: 0011241bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0011241#r4392
2010-07-29 06:15JimboOmegaNote Edited: 0011241bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0011241#r4393
2010-08-03 04:53weaselboy246Note Added: 0011434
2010-08-03 06:08Logical2uRelationship addedparent of 0002935
2010-08-03 09:43FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000309
2010-08-03 09:43FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-08-04 10:48albinocaveslugNote Added: 0011494
2010-08-04 11:57FootkerchiefNote Added: 0011499
2010-08-28 09:14behbehrNote Added: 0012204
2010-08-28 09:15behbehrIssue Monitored: behbehr
2010-09-20 05:12AnotherTag Attached: 0.31.13
2010-09-20 05:14AnotherIssue Monitored: Another
2010-10-05 04:28endrinIssue Monitored: endrin
2010-10-12 15:27DlaritIssue Monitored: Dlarit
2010-11-14 11:24Orkel2Note Added: 0013830
2010-11-21 12:31FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0003193
2010-12-10 06:06wRARIssue Monitored: wRAR
2011-02-16 14:28jwest23Issue Monitored: jwest23
2011-02-18 15:31xrogaanIssue Monitored: xrogaan
2011-03-04 23:11FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000094
2011-03-08 14:49AnotherTag Attached: 0.31.21
2011-03-13 05:39Toady OneNote Added: 0016199
2011-03-13 05:39Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2011-03-13 05:39Toady OneFixed in Version => 0.31.22
2011-03-13 05:39Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2011-03-13 05:39Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2011-03-13 17:39FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000459
2011-03-13 17:40FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0002935
2011-03-13 17:41FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0000730
2011-03-13 17:42FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0002437
2011-03-18 09:36AnotherIssue End Monitor: Another
2011-04-07 10:11wRARIssue End Monitor: wRAR
2011-06-08 11:13DwarfuRelationship replacedparent of 0002373
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0002373
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: JoRo
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: Cespinarve
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: Dr. Funkenstein
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: wRAR
2011-06-08 11:15DwarfuIssue Monitored: hyperactiveChipmunk
2011-09-08 10:57CharidanIssue Monitored: Charidan
2012-03-17 07:12DwarfuSticky IssueYes => No

Notes
(0001688)
Kataklistika   
2010-04-06 23:17   
I had a similar thing happen to my dwarf except she lost her left forearm and left hand instead. She never needed medical attention or rest. After the fight, during which it was lopped off, she picked up work as if nothing happened. She can't grasp anything with that hand but that doesn't seem to slow her masonry work down any.
(0002285)
Vince   
2010-04-09 02:56   
I can confirm this, my dwarf has severed nerves but gets no crutch assigned.
(0002511)
SirPenguin   
2010-04-09 21:56   
I'd like to also confirm this. The worst part of this bug is that the dwarf in question is caught in limbo - they will forever "Rest", but because the doctor thinks he did everything he could he'll never look at them again.
(0006315)
Jiri Petru   
2010-05-06 16:13   
(edited on: 2010-05-06 16:14)
I have a dwarf that lost the ability to stand because of a fractured foot. He's already been treated, the leg is immobilised and everything, now he has no treatment scheduled, but still has "ability to stand lost".

He has not recieved a crutch and is lying down in the hospital, doing "No job". He can be drafted and issued orders, like "station" or "defend burrows" and will actually try to follow them, but he keeps lying on the spot.

I doubt they will feed him...
(0008949)
MaXMC   
2010-06-22 08:19   
My Expedition leader was a part of my primary defense group and got his right hand ripped of by a Draltha... Now it just says "Ability to grasp somewhat impaired". No wounds are present although you'd think that the stub of the right arm would need cleaning, stitches and dressing?

No evaluated wounds and no diagnosis required.
(0009505)
Briggs   
2010-07-02 02:49   
Confirmed again as well. I'm having the same issue after one of my military dwarves had his left foot lopped off by a Kobold. He now sits in the hospital Resting, no further treatment or diagnosis scheduled.
(0009519)
toybasher   
2010-07-02 08:33   
My guess is its releated to how Toady removed Phantom Pains, he just made it so a severed foot (dark grey) actually vanishes from the dwarf's wound menu

Strange way of doing it but I guess the doctor gets confused (His leg isnt listed as dark grey, its missing from his wounds screen entirly, he must not be born with a leg, nothing wrong) <- What the doctor thinks.
(0009580)
toybasher   
2010-07-03 10:51   
Well, when ordering a wrestler and hammerman to attack a squad a grizzly bear shook him around and tore both nerves in his foot (see? I told you shaking severs nerves too easily) Now hes just in hospital as I type getting treated, his health screen says NOTHING about crutches.
(0009739)
Creidieki   
2010-07-07 14:20   
I don't know whether a save after the diagnosis is very helpful, but
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2638 [^]
has two dwarfs who have been bedbound for several years. They're in the beds in the silty-clay room to the west of the starting cursor. (One of them is flashing with a red +; they both have the title "WOUNDED").

Neither of two dwarfs can walk. They both received medical treatment while there were plenty of crutches available (both in boxes in the hospital they were in *and* in bins outside the hospital).

A save file during/before the diagnosis of someone who ends up with this problem would probably be helpful, if anyone ends up with one.
(0011241)
JimboOmega   
2010-07-29 06:10   
(edited on: 2010-07-29 06:15)
In my experience dwarves can get stuck in the hospital forever if they get an infection anywhere - it seems to stop any further treatment, even if the infection is recovered from?

I'm not sure but I have wounded dwarves who have spent years in the hospital, never getting better, occasionally getting infected. I even had a child grow to adult status, having been injured as a kid and never getting better or getting treatment, even though other dwarves have received all possible treatements (even casting, by some miracle) and there are dwarves with all healthcare choices enabled with "No Job".

Another dwarf lost a hand but his arm and shoulder were never treated - he went on to be a pretty productive miner anyway until a cave in, after which no doctor will treat him and he is bedridden with lots of red injuries.

The only thing I can see in common is that both were infected at one point. I think the kid got infected while a doctor was at a well....
(0011434)
weaselboy246   
2010-08-03 04:53   
I have a dwarf that is still in the hospital with a missing lower right leg, and broken hip. Been that for maybe half a year. Gets fed as usual. No treatment. However, had something odd happen. Got a strange mood. He walked, with 1 leg, over to jewelers and made an artifact, then went back to the hospital.
(0011494)
albinocaveslug   
2010-08-04 10:48   
I'm having the same problem for a dwarf with nerve damage in his leg in 31.12. Never had an infection that I saw, but has never been given a crutch. It seems my hospital doesn't stock them, despite a crutch stockpile inside the hospital. (My attempt to force the issue.) At this point the dwarf is showing no injuries in his thoughts. I might just have to find a way to injure him and see if that restarts the process for him.
(0011499)
Footkerchief   
2010-08-04 11:57   
albinocaveslug, it would be helpful to upload a save demonstrating that problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0012204)
behbehr   
2010-08-28 09:14   
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3006 [^]
this may be of some help: 3 dwarves at hospital for ever. 2 suffer from infections and broken parts, 1 from nothing else than "ability to stand lost". Crutches are available in the fortress, as anything else which could be needed.
(0013830)
Orkel2   
2010-11-14 11:24   
It is not only legs and arms - it seems any severed parts do this. I had a soldier with a severed nose go on without treatment and later die of an infection.

Really needs a fix.
(0016199)
Toady One   
2011-03-13 05:39   
The current state now with fixes applied is that dwarves with one leg or a broken leg will use a crutch, and dwarves without legs or that can't use either leg but are otherwise treated and healthy will just move around slowly on the ground. There could be more for legless dwarves later, but it is out of bug territory now.