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0007916Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2014-08-08 15:332021-02-09 16:57
ReporterOverbrook 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSWindowsOS Version8.1
Product Version0.40.06 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0007916: Diagnosing repeat
DescriptionThe chief medical dwarf keeps diagnosing a dwarf whose ''upper leg is dented'' and there is no treatment.
Steps To Reproduce1. Hurt dwarf
2. Sent him to hospital
3. Watch as chief medical dwarf repeats diagnosis
Additional InformationSaves:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9329 [^] (0.40.06)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10080 [^] (0.40.14, 0008554)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10067 [^] (0.40.15)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10166 [^] (0.40.19)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=10296 [^] (0.40.21)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11066 [^] (0.40.24)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11221 [^] (0.40.24)
TagsNo tags attached.
Relationships
related to 0004477new  Sometimes the diagnosis is repeated many times 
has duplicate 0008554resolved Footkerchief Injured dwarves constantly get re-diagnosed 
has duplicate 0008597resolved Footkerchief Bugged patient with looping diagnosis. 
has duplicate 0008853resolved Dwarfu diagnosis spamming 
has duplicate 0009289resolved Dwarfu Patient evaluation loops endlessly 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-08-08 15:33OverbrookNew Issue
2014-08-08 15:48FootkerchiefNote Added: 0028621
2014-08-08 15:48FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-08-08 15:48FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2014-08-08 15:52FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0004477
2014-08-08 20:36OverbrookNote Added: 0028632
2014-08-08 20:36OverbrookStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-08-08 20:37OverbrookNote Edited: 0028632bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0028632#r10961
2014-08-08 20:43FootkerchiefNote Added: 0028633
2014-08-08 21:17OverbrookNote Added: 0028635
2014-08-08 21:19OverbrookNote Added: 0028636
2014-08-13 20:46OverbrookIssue Monitored: Overbrook
2014-08-13 20:46OverbrookIssue End Monitor: Overbrook
2014-08-14 05:37FootkerchiefNote Added: 0029012
2014-08-14 05:37FootkerchiefStatusassigned => needs feedback
2014-11-14 05:28PatrikLundellNote Added: 0030977
2014-11-14 06:49FootkerchiefStatusneeds feedback => confirmed
2014-11-14 13:14PatrikLundellNote Added: 0030987
2014-11-17 07:19FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008554
2014-11-17 07:20FootkerchiefNote Added: 0031033
2014-11-20 07:34latias1290Note Added: 0031089
2014-11-20 07:34latias1290Note Edited: 0031089bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031089#r12368
2014-11-20 07:35latias1290Note Edited: 0031089bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031089#r12369
2014-11-21 10:26latias1290Note Edited: 0031089bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0031089#r12372
2014-12-02 15:06Goblin CookieNote Added: 0031245
2014-12-02 21:31FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008597
2014-12-03 07:35Larix2Note Added: 0031248
2014-12-21 07:50SoadreqmNote Added: 0031408
2014-12-21 08:02smjjamesNote Added: 0031409
2014-12-21 15:05SoadreqmNote Added: 0031423
2014-12-22 05:11SoadreqmIssue Monitored: Soadreqm
2015-03-10 07:02DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0008853
2015-08-18 17:11aaron5367Issue Monitored: aaron5367
2015-08-18 17:11aaron5367Note Added: 0032968
2015-10-22 16:05ShadwDrgnNote Added: 0033128
2015-10-22 18:38lethosorAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=13354#r13354
2015-12-14 14:2701d55Note Added: 0033890
2015-12-23 14:38MettoolNote Added: 0034170
2015-12-23 15:06mgotthardIssue Monitored: mgotthard
2015-12-23 15:09mgotthardNote Added: 0034171
2015-12-23 15:09mgotthardNote Edited: 0034171bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034171#r13762
2015-12-23 21:37HededeIssue Monitored: Hedede
2015-12-23 23:55maqertasNote Added: 0034175
2015-12-24 23:1001d55Note Added: 0034184
2015-12-25 00:17DwarfuRelationship addedhas duplicate 0009289
2015-12-25 00:18DwarfuNote Edited: 0034175bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0034175#r13769
2016-01-04 13:45cpmanNote Added: 0034314
2016-01-12 13:01clanlIssue Monitored: clanl
2016-01-19 08:56ButtonNote Added: 0034473
2016-03-10 22:57MuumehNote Added: 0034827
2016-03-13 14:37martinuzzNote Added: 0034840
2016-04-06 14:29KingMurdocNote Added: 0034982
2016-04-12 17:13CespinarveNote Added: 0035001
2016-06-24 11:04thvazNote Added: 0035478
2016-08-11 07:27argh226Note Added: 0035780
2016-08-30 21:00RatalonNote Added: 0035828
2016-10-28 08:58will_is_okayNote Added: 0036011
2017-11-28 00:22ParalyzoidNote Added: 0037061
2017-11-28 00:23ParalyzoidNote Edited: 0037061bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037061#r14948
2017-11-28 00:25ParalyzoidNote Edited: 0037061bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037061#r14949
2017-12-17 15:35mrmagolorNote Added: 0037347
2018-01-12 00:00OrkelNote Added: 0037589
2018-01-12 00:01OrkelNote Edited: 0037589bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037589#r15230
2018-01-12 00:08OrkelNote Added: 0037590
2018-01-12 00:08OrkelNote Edited: 0037590bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037590#r15232
2018-01-12 00:09OrkelNote Edited: 0037590bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037590#r15233
2018-01-12 00:09OrkelNote Edited: 0037590bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037590#r15234
2018-02-01 05:29OrkelNote Added: 0037724
2018-02-01 05:30OrkelNote Edited: 0037724bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037724#r15315
2018-02-01 05:34OrkelNote Edited: 0037724bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0037724#r15316
2018-02-19 11:01PatrikLundellNote Added: 0037810
2018-03-11 15:25thvazNote Added: 0037879
2019-04-10 12:55toolNote Added: 0039314
2019-08-18 11:21toolIssue Monitored: tool
2020-01-01 05:48maqertasIssue Monitored: maqertas
2020-02-12 05:38OrkelNote Added: 0040029
2020-02-15 16:42Toady OneNote Added: 0040073
2021-02-09 16:57tv1990Note Added: 0040907
2023-11-11 17:01uniformly_randomIssue Monitored: uniformly_random

Notes
(0028621)
Footkerchief   
2014-08-08 15:48   
Please upload a save that demonstrates the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.
(0028632)
Overbrook   
2014-08-08 20:36   
(edited on: 2014-08-08 20:37)
Which file am i supposed to post? World.sav?

Edit: after unretiring the fort, the injured dwarf wasn't in the hospital anymore, but a FB I had walled in the caverns ended up in the middle of my fortress.
(0028633)
Footkerchief   
2014-08-08 20:43   
Please upload a zip file containing the region folder, e.g. "region1" if that's where your game is.
(0028635)
Overbrook   
2014-08-08 21:17   
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9329 [^]
(0028636)
Overbrook   
2014-08-08 21:19   
If the dwarf who underwent diagnosis several times is still in the fortress, it should be visible in his medical history tab.
(0029012)
Footkerchief   
2014-08-14 05:37   
You're not sure if the dwarf is still around? Please verify that the save demonstrates the problem.
(0030977)
PatrikLundell   
2014-11-14 05:28   
I've got what I think is the same problem.
A dwarf in need of councelling went if front of a train and got injured and hauled to the hospital. As per usual, the doctors decided to eat, drink, not performing any job at all, and harvest (which is otherwise only rarely done by adults) before starting to treat the patient, who got infected. They started treatment, with frequent breaks, by diagnosing, cleaning, setting, and putting in traction (I think there was another Diagnosis in there as well, and I may have missed some treatment steps). Eventually the patient was treated and immobilized, with no Diagnosis requirement, but a bit later the Diagnosis requirement showed up again (when due to be released from traction, but not relesed due to infection?). The patient has been under Diagnosis since well before the beginning of the month, and the doctor's diagnosis skill has risen considerably, but it never ends. Now, the mayor is idle waiting for the patient to actually come to the councelling meeting, and the liason is waiting for that to end... I was able to break the waiting to trade with the caravan, though (the trader happened to be elected mayor).

Save uploaded to http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10067. [^]

I'm using PyLNP with DF Announcement Filter 1.1, DwarfTherapist, and DFHack Pure Bugfixes+Performance Tweaks. The DF version is 0.40.15, as PyLNP hasn't quite caught up.
(0030987)
PatrikLundell   
2014-11-14 13:14   
Additional info: The accident victim has finally recovered and left the hospital (15 opal), but one of the doctors has become Master diagonstician, while the other is Legendary+5. The dwarf is no longer marked as needing diagnostics on the Health screen.
(0031033)
Footkerchief   
2014-11-17 07:20   
0008554: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10080 [^]
(0031089)
latias1290   
2014-11-20 07:34   
(edited on: 2014-11-21 10:26)
I have the same problem. The save is above, but that was when the problem was way smaller. The injured soldier is now in traction and has been diagnosed by the same dwarf OVER FOUR THOUSAND TIMES. All those diagnosings have been done by the SAME DWARF who is now LEGENDARY +18 DIAGNOSER. Could someone please increase the priority? This is not only a massive pain in the ass, but it also clutters up the history list, and possibly consumes large amounts of disk space when done for a long time, even though the flags for the history are small. The diagnoser did each evaluation at a rate of 3 JOBS PER SECOND. I also disabled the diagnosing labor on him. The "diagnosis request" status is NOT GOING AWAY.

That's a great way to train diagnosticians, but it just occupies the jobs needed for REAL treatments. Please increase the priority.

(Sorry for the caps everywhere, but I just noticed how severe this problem is in my case and I am quite pissed. If you need the updated save, please ask.)

Edit: The affected dwarf is now fully healed, but still has an infection on two body parts, and still has a "Diagnosis required" tag in his treatment tab.
(0031245)
Goblin Cookie   
2014-12-02 15:06   
I have another save file with the diagnosis loop bug.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10166 [^]
(0031248)
Larix2   
2014-12-03 07:35   
Looking at Patrick Lundell's save, i can confirm that the tractioned dwarf was clearly getting over-diagnosed. While constant re-evaluation was always the norm while in traction (presumably to see if the patient is ready for release), six to fifteen diagnoses in a single day feel off.

I'm not too sure about the severity: while one tractioned (infected?) dwarf can occupy a diagnoser full-time, it probably shouldn't disrupt other healthcare efforts too badly if you have more than one diagnoser.
(0031408)
Soadreqm   
2014-12-21 07:50   
I can confirm that this still exists in .40.21. The chief medical dwarf diagnoses a dwarf in traction, starts to walk away, takes one step, and then turns back to diagnose the dwarf again.
I have a save, if another one is needed. I would have uploaded it already, but DFFD is giving me 503 errors.
(0031409)
smjjames   
2014-12-21 08:02   
Upload that one when you can I guess, so that there is a more recent save available.
(0031423)
Soadreqm   
2014-12-21 15:05   
Success.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10296 [^]
(0032968)
aaron5367   
2015-08-18 17:11   
Still exists in 0.40.24.
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11066 [^]
(0033128)
ShadwDrgn   
2015-10-22 16:05   
I have this bug too. Versions 0.40.24

Another save file here if it helps:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11221 [^]
(0033890)
01d55   
2015-12-14 14:27   
Still exists. Save created v 0.42.02, but injury occured version 0.42.03
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11481 [^]
(0034170)
Mettool   
2015-12-23 14:38   
Also having this problem in 0.42.03. I'm well on my way to have a legendary Diagnoser.
(0034171)
mgotthard   
2015-12-23 15:09   
I also had this in a 42.03 save game with a traction bench.

Notes etc need updating so it reflects that it *can* be reproduced, and that it affects the current version.
(0034175)
maqertas   
2015-12-23 23:55   
(edited on: 2015-12-25 00:18)
Had the same, reported in 0009289

(Manager's edit to add save)
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11435 [^]
(0034184)
01d55   
2015-12-24 23:10   
When googling to find this report again, I turned up this: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4350 [^]

In that report, Toady claims that a diagnosis is required to get a dwarf out of traction once a compound fracture heals, but he "might reduce the frequency." So many diagnoses of an immobilized dwarf, such as what I have in my save, is expected.

For now I'm going to take advantage of my traction victim and train up diagnosis on multiple dwarves.
(0034314)
cpman   
2016-01-04 13:45   
Can confirm on 0.42.04 -- dwarves in traction still get diagnosed like 20 times a day. My doctor walks back and forth to the hospital and does little else.
(0034473)
Button   
2016-01-19 08:56   
It seems, though I'm not 100% sure of this, that the cause of this may be when the diagnosis job is picked up by someone other than the chief medical dwarf. I observed in a recent fort that a injured dwarf was being repeatedly diagnosed by one of my two medidwarves, until he went on break. Then he was diagnosed by the chief medical dwarf, and that diagnosis worked.
(0034827)
Muumeh   
2016-03-10 22:57   
Button, I just got my first dwarf in traction and the chief medical dwarf keeps diagnosing him, so that is not the cause. So far it's only 6 diagnoses, but he keeps walking away and turning back to diagnose again so it looks like he is going to be pretty good at diagnosing very soon at this rate.
(0034840)
martinuzz   
2016-03-13 14:37   
Same thing here. When it started I did not yet have more than one dwarf with diagnosis enabled, so it's not that. It either has to do with being in traction, or with needing a crutch, or a combination of both. It happened to me before, I think in DF2014, and now it happens in 42.06 (world generated in 42.05).
Here's a save. Look for the hospital on zoom F4, or find a dwarf named Agate in the unit list.
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11850 [^]
(0034982)
KingMurdoc   
2016-04-06 14:29   
Confirming 42.06, I currently have a High Master and rising diagnoser because he'll diagnose, walk two steps, then walk back.
(0035001)
Cespinarve   
2016-04-12 17:13   
Don't see a 42.06 file. so here's me tossing mine into the fray. Same problems as everyone above: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11942 [^]
(0035478)
thvaz   
2016-06-24 11:04   
Got a dwarf with no skill in Disgnose to Grand Master thanks to this bug. Still in 0.43.04.
(0035780)
argh226   
2016-08-11 07:27   
43.03 : Got myself a goblin noble (for some reason...) in the traction bench and went over 2-3 months of being diagnosed without anything to happen.

Removed all my benches he left to eat/drink nothing else was being taking care of. (sutures/clean)

Constructed the benches back, the same thing rehappened with the same goblin. Diagnose looping in the traction bench.
(0035828)
Ratalon   
2016-08-30 21:00   
Can reconfirm in 43.03.
Injury is right hip bone
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12389 [^]

Game loads on Z with the hospital

Doctor is checking multiple times a day, can only walk away at most 6 steps before he is called back to diagnose again.
(0036011)
will_is_okay   
2016-10-28 08:58   
I can confirm as of 43.03 as well that this glitch is still active, but I have a workaround. If deconstruct the traction benches underneath the dwarf needing diagnosis, the job will eventually get done.

While I have no evidence that dwarves have preferred sleeping positions (back, side, etc.) with the level of detail this game goes into, why wouldn't they? I thought, what if the dwarf is laying on the side/body part that needs to be diagnosed and can't be moved because they are immobile? In this case, the diagnoser comes to the dwarf with the diagnosis request, views the parts of the dwarf visible to the diagnoser, sees nothing wrong, completes a diagnosis and leaves. The injured dwarf then generates another diagnosis request since the problem was not actually diagnosed, bringing back the diagnoser. The problematic diagnoses seem to be in specific areas (for me it was left true ribs, left hip, left upper leg) that get fixed together when moving. The ribs were taken care of after the first deconstruct, the hip and leg after the second.
(0037061)
Paralyzoid   
2017-11-28 00:22   
(edited on: 2017-11-28 00:25)
I can confirm the bug still exists. Using a claystone traction bench.
Deconstructing the traction bench doesn't seem to help, the dwarf hauls himself to a bed and then just sits there and doesn't get diagnosed at all.

Oh, and there's the occasional "Clean" in the middle of diagnosing in the treatment history.
(0037347)
mrmagolor   
2017-12-17 15:35   
This is still present in 0.44.01.
(0037589)
Orkel   
2018-01-12 00:00   
(edited on: 2018-01-12 00:01)
Present in 0.44.04 - same as Paralyzoid says. Dwarf stuck in traction bench with no medical care planned (just evaluation spam, hundreds of it), and when deconstructing bench he goes to a bed to do nothing.
(0037590)
Orkel   
2018-01-12 00:08   
(edited on: 2018-01-12 00:09)
Here is the save for my above message: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13405 [^]

Hospital is near the tavern. Cook is in traction bench with an overlapping fracture, being spam-diagnosed. Hope we get this fixed in 0.44.05 - many saves have been posted over the years.
(0037724)
Orkel   
2018-02-01 05:29   
(edited on: 2018-02-01 05:34)
New dwarf ended up in traction bench - diagnose spam started again. Also just like Paralyzoid says, there will be a random "Clean" job with soap, but then the diagnose spam continues.

Here's the save, this time in 0.44.05: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13473 [^]

Edit: Right after I loaded back ingame, the dwarf healed. Either really bad save timing on my part or the save+load somehow did it.
(0037810)
PatrikLundell   
2018-02-19 11:01   
0.44.05. In my case the elven citizen finally ended up in a traction bench with 4 infections and was subjected to constant diagnose jobs for 2-4 months, after which he finally got up from the traction bench (still infected, of course).
I'm not sure if my playing with military squads had some effect, as I put his squad on training for a month, tried to replace the squad training with another one, but ended up retaining his squad on training. After unpausing he got up. I suspect it's rather a matter of recuperation, so eventually they may heal and get up, cutting the "intense training session" off.

I've got a save where the diagnosis repeat is ongoing, shortly after putting the victim in the traction bench, if that's of interest. Unfortunately, it weight in at just short of 500 MB (zipped, just the region folder), which is above the DFFD limit.
(0037879)
thvaz   
2018-03-11 15:25   
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13555 [^]

This save was for another bug, but there is a dwarf on the hospital in the F2 zoom with this problem. 0.44.06
(0039314)
tool   
2019-04-10 12:55   
Maybe my 44.12 save is helpful: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14330 [^]
(0040029)
Orkel   
2020-02-12 05:38   
Confirmed as still existing in 0.47.02 by Reddit user /u/deep_clean_am

https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/f2q79w/infinite_diagnosis/ [^]
(0040073)
Toady One   
2020-02-15 16:42   
I've fixed the traction version of this for 47.03. There are several other ways diagnosis begins, so I'm hesitant to mark it off. There could still be a crutch-only case, though the only versions I could find of that were also related to traction.
(0040907)
tv1990   
2021-02-09 16:57   
i got the same problem , but the diagnosis is done on a table
version : 0.47.05
file : https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=15404 [^]
utilities used :
DFHack Build 210131001
TWBT 6.xx Preview for DFHack 0.47.05-alpha0
Dwarf Therapist 41.2.0 with experimental memory layout