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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0008153Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2014-08-25 12:292014-08-25 16:01
ReporterKanddak 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusassignedResolutionopen 
PlatformMacOSMacOSOS Version10.7.5
Product Version0.40.10 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008153: Suturers & wound dressers haul thread/cloth after use, even with item hauling disabled
DescriptionI've noticed that after suturing or dressing a wound, doctors will always haul the leftover thread or cloth back to a cloth stockpile, acquiring a "store item in stockpile" job even when they have the item hauling labor disabled.
Expected behavior would be that after suturing/dressing, doctors with item hauling disabled should just drop the thread/cloth on the floor, let a hauler worry about what happens to it next, and move on to another healthcare job.

Closely related: 0000771, 0001359, 0003147 ; these reports all pertain to various complications of this issue (e.g. message spam when the cloth stockpile isn't in the doctor's burrow), but don't directly say it's wrong that non-hauler doctors are acquiring hauling jobs in the first place.
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Additional Information
Tagshauling, healthcare, Intentional/Expected?, leftover from 0.31
Relationships
related to 0003147new  Heathcare dwarves return leftover cloth/thread to outside stockpile instead of hospital supplies 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-08-25 12:29KanddakNew Issue
2014-08-25 12:30KanddakTag Attached: healthcare
2014-08-25 12:30KanddakTag Attached: hauling
2014-08-25 12:30KanddakTag Attached: leftover from 0.31
2014-08-25 12:52FootkerchiefTag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-08-25 12:53FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0003147
2014-08-25 12:55FootkerchiefNote Added: 0029617
2014-08-25 12:55FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-08-25 12:55FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2014-08-25 15:35KanddakNote Added: 0029626
2014-08-25 15:35KanddakStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-08-25 15:35KanddakNote Edited: 0029626bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0029626#r11438
2014-08-25 15:36KanddakNote Edited: 0029626bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0029626#r11439
2014-08-25 15:36KanddakNote Edited: 0029626bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0029626#r11440
2014-08-25 16:01FootkerchiefSummarySuturers & wound dressers haul thread/cloth even with item hauling disabled => Suturers & wound dressers haul thread/cloth after use, even with item hauling disabled

Notes
(0029617)
Footkerchief   
2014-08-25 12:55   
The doctors have to grab the item from the hospital supplies initially, right? It seems like it'd be weird for them to haul the item one way but not the other.
(0029626)
Kanddak   
2014-08-25 15:35   
(edited on: 2014-08-25 15:36)
That would be more consistent with the behavior of most other jobs in the game:
- Dwarves doing jobs in a workshop retrieve their own materials but don't automatically get a job to store the product or emptied container in a stockpile, and rightly so; we generally want the glassmaker to take another glassmaking job, not make a long hike to drop off an empty bag.
- Miners, woodcutters and fisherdwarves don't automatically get store-in-stockpile jobs for their products, and it's common for players to make a point of disabling the related hauling labors to make absolutely certain that they never take such a job.
- Dwarves hauling water don't automatically get jobs to put the bucket back in a stockpile.

The only other jobs I'm aware of having similar behavior are herbalists hauling back their gathered plants, and dwarves finishing the last drink in a barrel and getting a job to store the barrel; both of these also have current open issues related to their tendencies to divert skilled dwarves from their trades and to cause message spam when conflicting with dwarves' burrow assignments.