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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000823Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Interface, Managerpublic2010-04-08 14:202011-04-07 10:11
ReporterQuietust 
Assigned ToToady One 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.31.13 
Summary0000823: "Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work)
DescriptionNative copper, native silver, native gold, native platinum, native aluminum, horn silver (as per 0000821), raw adamantine, and slade all use METAL_TEMPLATE; as a result, it is possible to add jobs via the job manager to stud equipment with them. Actually attempting to add such a job will result in failure with the reason "Needs [ore] bars" (even if the ore itself is available, it still insists on bars).
Steps To Reproduce1. Embark with an anvil, a rock, some nuggets of one of the above ores, and a dwarf with Metal crafting skill.
2. Assign the Manager position to some dwarf.
3. Build a metalsmith's forge.
4. Using the job manager, enqueue a task to "Stud with native [ore]", for whatever ore was brought during embark.
Additional Information
Tagsmetal
Relationships
related to 0001399resolved Footkerchief "Native" ores can't be used at mason's shop 
parent of 0000821resolved Toady One Horn silver uses METAL_TEMPLATE 
parent of 0003108resolved Toady One Native metals/raw adamantine have default metal properties 
parent of 0001887resolved Toady One Mayor mandates "Make raw adamantine items", impossible to fulfill 
parent of 0001817resolved Footkerchief Nobles issue mandates for raw adamantine items 
parent of 0000782resolved Toady One [SPOILERS] Mayor mandates items of HFS material 
has duplicate 0001211closed Footkerchief 2 "stones" listed in preferences, no "metal" 
has duplicate 0002342resolved Footkerchief You can make all weapons&armor from 'native' ores in the arena, and I think there could be a relationship with the rock bars bug 
has duplicate 0002781resolved Footkerchief Native Gold/Silver Ores melted into unusable native gold/silver bars 
related to 0000445resolved Toady One Native silver + stone crafter -> large native silver 
related to 0002151resolved Toady One Mandate for "make native gold items" satisfied merely by mining out ore 
related to 0000099resolved Toady One Fey dwarf screams for 'rock bars'. 
Attached Files
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-08 14:20QuietustNew Issue
2010-04-08 15:19FootkerchiefSummaryJob manager permits studding with METAL_TEMPLATE stones => "Native" ores that use METAL_TEMPLATE are considered eligible for "sharp blades" and studding, but it doesn't actually work
2010-04-08 15:19FootkerchiefNote Added: 0002169
2010-04-08 15:55QuietustNote Added: 0002185
2010-04-08 16:40QuietustNote Added: 0002193
2010-04-08 20:16quatchTag Attached: metal
2010-04-08 20:18quatchNote Added: 0002240
2010-04-15 16:25FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001211
2010-04-19 01:30FootkerchiefTag Attached: PROBABLE QUICK FIX
2010-04-21 11:28FootkerchiefSummary"Native" ores that use METAL_TEMPLATE are considered eligible for "sharp blades" and studding, but it doesn't actually work => "Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work), can't be used as stone
2010-04-21 11:28FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0001399
2010-04-21 11:32FootkerchiefSummary"Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work), can't be used as stone => "Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work), can't be used by mason
2010-04-22 00:34Khym ChanurIssue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-26 17:35FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0001211
2010-04-26 17:35FootkerchiefIssue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-28 09:51smjjamesTag Attached: quick fix
2010-05-05 21:28FootkerchiefTag Detached: quick fix
2010-05-06 10:24FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000445
2010-05-21 07:35QuietustNote Added: 0007127
2010-06-04 08:52FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0002151
2010-06-08 17:15Hieronymous AlloyNote Added: 0007965
2010-06-11 09:16FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000099
2010-06-11 09:23FootkerchiefSticky IssueNo => Yes
2010-06-15 12:12FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0002342
2010-06-15 12:27smjjamesNote Added: 0008523
2010-06-15 12:27smjjamesIssue Monitored: smjjames
2010-06-19 01:06wRARIssue Monitored: wRAR
2010-07-09 13:23dree12Note Added: 0009840
2010-07-09 17:31FootkerchiefNote Added: 0009849
2010-07-09 17:31FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0009849bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0009849#r3785
2010-07-22 07:32FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0002781
2010-07-22 07:35FootkerchiefRelationship replacedhas duplicate 0002781
2010-07-23 08:54FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0001399
2010-07-31 02:09FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0000821
2010-08-02 17:05FootkerchiefSummary"Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work), can't be used by mason => "Native" ores use METAL_TEMPLATE, can supposedly be used for "sharp blades" and studding (doesn't work)
2010-08-05 18:39HebaruSanIssue Monitored: HebaruSan
2010-08-25 23:11FootkerchiefRelationship addedparent of 0003108
2010-09-06 05:18Toady OneNote Added: 0012452
2010-09-06 05:18Toady OneStatusnew => resolved
2010-09-06 05:18Toady OneFixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-06 05:18Toady OneResolutionopen => fixed
2010-09-06 05:18Toady OneAssigned To => Toady One
2010-09-06 08:19DwarfuTag Detached: Probable Quick Fix
2010-09-06 08:23DwarfuSticky IssueYes => No
2010-10-03 08:18smjjamesIssue End Monitor: smjjames
2010-10-14 07:56Khym ChanurIssue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2011-04-07 10:11wRARIssue End Monitor: wRAR
2011-10-15 09:26DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0001887
2011-10-15 09:35DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0001817
2011-12-11 09:49DwarfuRelationship addedparent of 0000782

Notes
(0002169)
Footkerchief   
2010-04-08 15:19   
Edited the title to include some other problems with ores that use METAL_TEMPLATE.
(0002185)
Quietust   
2010-04-08 15:55   
The eligibility for "sharp blades" seems to be what permits making weapons out of them in Arena mode, but this probably has rather unexpected results with the "native" ores since it ends up using all of the default properties for metals (except for slade, which explicitly redefines all of said properties so they make sense).
(0002193)
Quietust   
2010-04-08 16:40   
The "sharp blades" also appears to permit making rock short swords (or any other weapons with [CAN_STONE]), giving all of them properties roughly equivalent to steel (except with much higher elasticity values). Due to 0000256, though, it doesn't actually create them successfully.
(0002240)
quatch   
2010-04-08 20:18   
Also appears while inspecting ores ('k' then cursor to mined out ore chunk)
(0007127)
Quietust   
2010-05-21 07:35   
This appears to cause another issue: ores which use METAL_TEMPLATE can be designated for Melting - actually melting them produces "native [whatever] bars" which can probably then be used for studding.
(0007965)
Hieronymous Alloy   
2010-06-08 17:15   
Yeah, I had this bug also, my stonecrafter tried to make native gold short swords.
(0008523)
smjjames   
2010-06-15 12:27   
@Footkerchief: While my bug report was specifically for the arena, yea I guess I didn't quite see that the same conclusion had already been made and I had been wanting to get my thoughts out there.

Good idea to sticky this as the root of this bug could even solve the strange alchemy going on with gold goblets getting turned into iron and shell artifacts turning into iron.
(0009840)
dree12   
2010-07-09 13:23   
The "root" of this bug is the [IS_METAL] or whatever in the metal template, isn't it? I don't see how gold --> iron relates.
(0009849)
Footkerchief   
2010-07-09 17:31   
^^^ Yes. The gold/iron thing is probably unrelated.
(0012452)
Toady One   
2010-09-06 05:18   
They no longer use templates as of 0.31.13, so the studding jobs should go away, as well as some other issues.