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0008264Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Eating/Drinkingpublic2014-09-09 05:402014-09-13 12:47
ReporterR4FKEN 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusresolvedResolutionduplicate 
PlatformOSWindowsOS VersionWindows 7
Product Version0.40.10 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008264: Food & drinks disappearing from "z"-menu, dwarves are starving
DescriptionI noticed all dwarves were starving and found out that all food & all drinks have disappeared from the z-menu.
Also getting a lot of cancellation spam: "food not found".
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
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Relationships
duplicate of 0005711confirmed Footkerchief Items (clothing/food) rot in an "everything" stockpile that includes refuse 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-09-09 05:40R4FKENNew Issue
2014-09-09 06:40FootkerchiefNote Added: 0030053
2014-09-09 06:40FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-09-09 06:40FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2014-09-09 06:56R4FKENNote Added: 0030054
2014-09-09 06:56R4FKENStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-09-09 08:08R4FKENNote Added: 0030057
2014-09-09 09:31FootkerchiefNote Added: 0030059
2014-09-09 09:34R4FKENNote Added: 0030060
2014-09-09 09:39FootkerchiefStatusassigned => needs feedback
2014-09-09 12:46R4FKENNote Added: 0030067
2014-09-09 12:46R4FKENStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-09-09 13:34FootkerchiefNote Added: 0030068
2014-09-09 13:35FootkerchiefStatusassigned => needs feedback
2014-09-09 13:36FootkerchiefNote Edited: 0030068bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0030068#r11725
2014-09-09 14:34R4FKENNote Added: 0030069
2014-09-09 14:34R4FKENStatusneeds feedback => assigned
2014-09-09 14:35R4FKENNote Edited: 0030069bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0030069#r11727
2014-09-09 14:45smjjamesNote Added: 0030070
2014-09-10 06:15LociNote Added: 0030077
2014-09-10 06:46smjjamesNote Added: 0030079
2014-09-10 09:25R4FKENNote Added: 0030087
2014-09-10 11:04FootkerchiefNote Added: 0030089
2014-09-10 11:04FootkerchiefStatusassigned => resolved
2014-09-10 11:04FootkerchiefResolutionopen => no change required
2014-09-13 12:47FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0005711
2014-09-13 12:47FootkerchiefResolutionno change required => duplicate

Notes
(0030053)
Footkerchief   
2014-09-09 06:40   
Need a lot more details. Are the food objects still visible in the gameplay map? Could they have been destroyed by heat/cold? What happens if you produce more food?

Please upload a save that demonstrates the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.
(0030054)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-09 06:56   
Food objects are not visible, anywhere. They just disappeared.
Heat/cold isn't possible as far I know, I'm in a moderate climate and I have been in this fort for over 5 years now without any problems.
I'm not sure what happens with the food I am producing now, I've included a savegame where I am just starting with:
1) Preparing easy meals (have set all seeds to "cook" just now, as the fruit etc. have disappeared).
2) Cleaning fish (the raw fish have not disappeared, but need to be prepared to be considered food afaik).

I cannot seem to access the DFFD from where I am now, so I have uploaded the savegame to my Dropbox, link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0t7ljg8cnoq1fnl/AAApD_ej-9zTQ0rWQusHjw01a?dl=0 [^]
(0030057)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-09 08:08   
Half an hour further in the savegame (at very low fps, fwiw) it seems that less and less dwarves are starving/hungry, so I guess food production is going well...
(0030059)
Footkerchief   
2014-09-09 09:31   
Is there reason to think that the food wasn't simply eaten?
(0030060)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-09 09:34   
Oh yes, I should have mentioned that: I had about 2000+ prepared lavish meals, and about 600+ drinks, and the timeperiod (real life) can be at max. (about) 0,5 hours.
(0030067)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-09 12:46   
feedback given (think something went wrong here)
(0030068)
Footkerchief   
2014-09-09 13:34   
(edited on: 2014-09-09 13:36)
Where did they disappear from? Were they in barrels in a stockpile? Food rots quickly when not stored properly.

It's going to be hard to figure out what happened unless you have more details or a save that demonstrates the disappearance in progress.
(0030069)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-09 14:34   
(edited on: 2014-09-09 14:35)
They were stored in barrels in stockpiles, yes. The barrels are still there as far as I know.

I'm sorry I don't have any more details for you, but I'll try to get together the same amounts of food/drink and see if that causes it to happen again.
(0030070)
smjjames   
2014-09-09 14:45   
What about vermin? An unchecked vermin population could do that.
(0030077)
Loci   
2014-09-10 06:15   
Note how your "everything" stockpile is filled to capacity, and many tiles have more than one item? The problem is that food turns over (gets replaced) regularly, while mechanisms, bins, and cages do not. So once your stockpile was completely full, your dwarves hauled half-filled food barrels out to pick up newly-created food, then left the entire barrel of food to rot outside the stockpile since there were no empty stockpile tiles. You can see this in the save: a plant barrel was abandoned in the plump helmet field because there wasn't room in the stockpile to store it. There is also a (now) empty barrel by the dimple cup field which probably once held your fortress's foodstuffs. This problem naturally wouldn't manifest until after you'd created enough goods to completely fill your "everything" stockpile.

The only way to guarantee sufficient stockpile space for food is to not allow your dwarves to place anything else in the tile; I would highly suggest separate food and drink stockpiles.
(0030079)
smjjames   
2014-09-10 06:46   
Yeah, the only times that I have an 'everything' stockpile is initially when I'm moving everything in from the wagon until I have proper stockpiles set up for different categories.
(0030087)
R4FKEN   
2014-09-10 09:25   
Thanks for the explanation, will be making separate stockpiles now!
(0030089)
Footkerchief   
2014-09-10 11:04   
Sounds like it's solved, please reopen if there's still a bug here.