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0008528Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Idle Behaviorpublic2014-11-07 20:472017-10-29 11:39
Reportersomnifera 
Assigned ToLoci 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformWindowsOSWindows 7OS Version
Product Version0.40.14 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0008528: Dwarves won't talk to lovers
DescriptionAfter dwarves become lovers, they cease to chat with each other in their free time, preventing them from progressing to marriage. (I'm aware that some dwarves' orientation mean they won't commit, but these dwarves don't even talk once they become lovers.) They still chat with normal friends. Several other people have also experienced the issue.
 
Steps To ReproduceGenerate new world. Embark. Wait for some of the dwarves to become lovers - they'll talk to each other after that for a while, less than a season. Then all the pairs abruptly stop talking to each other (will still talk to friends). If you lock the couples up together they'll just idle and not interact. This prevents trying to self-populate a fort.
Additional Informationhttp://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=145469.0 [^]
http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/2lljay/dwarves_wont_talk_to_lovers/ [^]
TagsRelationships
Relationships
related to 0007905resolved Toady One Romance and marriage are mutually exclusive 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2014-11-07 20:47somniferaNew Issue
2014-11-07 20:47somniferaTag Attached: Relationships
2014-11-08 05:04ReiwedianTag Attached: ...
2014-11-08 05:04ReiwedianTag Detached: ...
2014-11-08 11:05FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0007905
2014-11-08 11:07FootkerchiefNote Added: 0030909
2014-11-08 11:07FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2014-11-08 11:07FootkerchiefStatusnew => needs feedback
2015-01-07 09:44ptb_ptbNote Added: 0031751
2015-01-07 10:59Rafal99Note Added: 0031753
2015-01-07 11:17ptb_ptbNote Added: 0031754
2015-01-12 08:56ptb_ptbNote Added: 0031907
2017-10-29 11:39LociNote Added: 0036816
2017-10-29 11:39LociStatusneeds feedback => resolved
2017-10-29 11:39LociResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2017-10-29 11:39LociAssigned ToFootkerchief => Loci

Notes
(0030909)
Footkerchief   
2014-11-08 11:07   
Please upload a save that reproduces the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.
(0031751)
ptb_ptb   
2015-01-07 09:44   
I can definitely confirm that dwarves can talk to their lovers in DF 0.40.23

Specifically, I have two pairs of dwarves in lover relationships. They have been so for eleven game years.
Pair 1
"Within the last season he felt lustful talking with a lover." "Within the last season she felt tenderness talking with a lover." (lol, that relationship is doomed).
Pair 2
No talk memories in thoughts. "She is romantically involved with Moldath Axeseige" "He is romantically involved with Dodok Ceilingguild"

I've been keeping them pretty busy. Both have failed to commit to marriage. And there are no babies.

Anyway, it looks like "Unable to reproduce" to me.
(0031753)
Rafal99   
2015-01-07 10:59   
> Anyway, it looks like "Unable to reproduce" to me.

The bug or the dwarves? :D
(0031754)
ptb_ptb   
2015-01-07 11:17   
@Rafal99 Lol, both.

Seriously, though, as I understand it dwarves that are 'lovers' don't have babies (or shouldn't: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140163.msg5933127#msg5933127 [^]) and there is a chance that your dwarves happen to not be open to the commitment of marriage.

If that is broken in any way, it probably has nothing to do with dwarves not talking to lovers - because it seems that they can.
(0031907)
ptb_ptb   
2015-01-12 08:56   
I've been doing 'science'
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=147448.0 [^]
and I have successfully got a pair of embark dwarves to fall in love and marry (DF 0.40.23). It only took 6 game years (lol). I didn't do anything special, except make my dwarves take Winter off from common tasks to leave more time for socializing.

I think this could possibly be closed.

It may be hard to get dwarves married, but it isn't impossible. Requesting dwarves get married more easily sounds like a suggestion to me.
(0036816)
Loci   
2017-10-29 11:39   
v0.43.05x32: Two lover pairs were still talking to each other when idling together up to a year later. Strategies for arranging marriages have advanced considerably since 2014, and many dwarves have been successfully wed.