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0000903Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Invasionspublic2010-04-09 17:342016-01-31 07:01
ReporterRochndil 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformWindowsOSXPOS VersionSP3
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000903: Items on corpses of slain invaders remain {forbidden} despite o-F-t
DescriptionOther forbid/claim settings seem to be working, but items on the bodies of invaders (or dropped by them) remain forbidden. Items brought by slain friendlies behave properly.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information
Tagsforbidden item
Relationships
related to 0000784new  Dwarf was murdered during fell mood, clothes weren't properly forbidden 
related to 0003282new  Merchants' stuff does not default to forbidden, despite settings, upon their death 
has duplicate 0001053closed Footkerchief Items always forbidden despite forbidden orders options 
has duplicate 0005417resolved Footkerchief Orders->Forbid->Claim other death items not honored 
has duplicate 0005547resolved Logical2u "claim other death items" does not work properly 
has duplicate 0006043resolved Footkerchief Non-citizen death items forbidden despite standing orders to claim 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-09 17:34RochndilNew Issue
2010-04-09 17:49DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002476
2010-04-09 19:17KennelTag Attached: forbidden item
2010-04-10 06:27RochndilNote Added: 0002560
2010-04-12 13:17FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0000784
2010-04-12 13:18FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001053
2010-04-12 13:18FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000784
2010-04-12 18:57bloodystumpIssue Monitored: bloodystump
2010-04-18 06:52DeathworksNote Added: 0004047
2010-07-29 06:54behbehrNote Added: 0011244
2010-08-31 19:07RosesNote Added: 0012291
2010-08-31 20:33kwielandNote Added: 0012294
2010-10-12 16:39lazygnomeNote Added: 0013336
2010-10-12 19:12QuietustNote Added: 0013341
2010-10-12 19:15QuietustNote Edited: 0013341bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0013341#r5156
2010-10-12 19:16QuietustNote Deleted: 0013341
2011-04-21 21:11snooptoddIssue Monitored: snooptodd
2012-02-23 13:26FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005417
2012-02-26 06:18RochndilNote Added: 0020712
2012-02-26 07:36FootkerchiefNote Added: 0020722
2012-02-26 08:24KumquatNote Added: 0020734
2012-02-27 12:08RochndilNote Added: 0020801
2012-03-04 11:29KumquatNote Added: 0021080
2012-03-04 11:53Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0005547
2012-03-04 11:53Logical2uIssue Monitored: DVeL
2012-06-21 06:07FootkerchiefRelationship addedhas duplicate 0006043
2012-06-21 06:07FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0003282
2013-04-12 09:30epeliNote Added: 0023938
2016-01-31 07:01RochndilNote Added: 0034577

Notes
(0002476)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-09 17:49   
try using (d) (b) (c) to area claim them. They should show up bright green if they're forbidden.

Have you been changing the forbid/claim settings under orders?

If they're killed with forbid on it won't magically claim anything when you turn it back off. You need to do that yourself.

If these tips explain/resolve your issue this matter can probably be closed.
(0002560)
Rochndil   
2010-04-10 06:27   
I've been claiming them individually (with loo(k)), and they ARE {forbidden}. Changing the Forbid options under Orders is one of the first things I do when starting a game. Two settings on the Forbid menu are changed, used ammunition and other death items. Used ammo IS being claimed properly, as are death items from non-hostile corpses. It's just the hostile death items that are remaining forbidden. I do know that the setting must be applied before the death occurs, but thanks for being thorough.
(0004047)
Deathworks   
2010-04-18 06:52   
I want to add that in my fortresses, the used bolts of merchants are also forbidden, even though I have all forbid options set to claim.
(0011244)
behbehr   
2010-07-29 06:54   
Just to confirm that this bug is still present in 0.31.12
(0012291)
Roses   
2010-08-31 19:07   
This is happening to me as well. Even with the Forbid options set to claim as soon as a siege or ambush enters the map all of the gear they are wearing is set to Forbidden. It's not particularly difficult to claim them using the d-b-c thing, but it can be annoying if you lose track of one of the invaders and your military dwarf kills it away from everyone else.
(0012294)
kwieland   
2010-08-31 20:33   
Remember, Roses, that these things happen on death/shootingof bolts. So if the goblins/kobolds/whatever are still alive, their equipment will be forbidden to you. Also, if the merchants' guards already shot something, those bolts will have to be reclaimed (use the stocks menu, it is quicker).

But, when hostiles die the game should respect your wishes of having it forbidden or not. I've certainly seen lots of deaths, and the game has yet to not respect the preferences (sometimes it leads to FUN).
(0013336)
lazygnome   
2010-10-12 16:39   
I did not experience this bug with 0.31.12
Have not played 0.31.13 - 15
Experiencing this bug in 0.31.16
(0020712)
Rochndil   
2012-02-26 06:18   
Just a quick update. This bug (apparently unchanged) is still noticeable in 34-02.
(0020722)
Footkerchief   
2012-02-26 07:36   
Thanks for checking back on old reports, it's much appreciated!
(0020734)
Kumquat   
2012-02-26 08:24   
So, guessing the obvious, oFt setting just stops the items from becoming forbidden when the creatures die - but since they're forbidden already when the creatures spawn, then they need to be un-forbidden at death if oFt is set to claim.
(0020801)
Rochndil   
2012-02-27 12:08   
I always set my claim options in zero-time before I even start designing the fortress. SO, unless they're pre-spawned somehow, the option is definitely being set before they invade. However, it's not completely impossible with the recent improvements that the invaders DO exist before the fortress starts, though I have no easy way of verifying that.
(0021080)
Kumquat   
2012-03-04 11:29   
If you check the inventory of an invader, merchant, or such, all the items are forbidden. I think this was a fix to a bug where haulers would strip guests of their clothes as soon as they showed up.
(0023938)
epeli   
2013-04-12 09:30   
Still happens in 0.34.11. (I did not experience this bug back in 0.31.15)
(0034577)
Rochndil   
2016-01-31 07:01   
This issue remains in 42.05, although it's not completely consistent. Usually it affects everything the invader is wearing, and SOMETIMES it only affects their shirt and loincloth. Which, I suppose, isn't entirely a bad thing if you really don't WANT to see naked Goblin bodies.