0001011: Object testing arena, creature creation, footwear handling weirdness

Notes
(0003320) PencilinHand (reporter) 2010-04-13 13:37	As of 0.31.03. High boots now work and low boots don't, though I can [g]et and [w]ear any boot + under foot wear. I can't seem to wear under foot wear + shoes, though.

(0003323) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-13 14:04 edited on: 2010-04-13 14:04	"With high boots you can only wear one a single chausses on your right foot. With socks they layer correctly. But with chausses + shoes or sandles you can wear only one shoe/sandle on your left foot." I still don't understand this part no matter how many times I read it. I think you're contrasting several situations against each other. It would be clearer if you a) list all the foot/legwear you're wearing in each situation, and what it won't let you wear and b) explain the discrepancy between those situations.

(0003395) PencilinHand (reporter) 2010-04-13 21:27 edited on: 2010-04-13 21:33	In 0.31.0, upon creation of a dwarf(or other?) in Arena Mode using default raws giving him both over and under footwear results as follows. pair of high boots + pair of chausses = left foot chauss(es?) on the ground pair of low boots + pair of chausses = pair of boots worn over pair of chausses pair of shoes + pair of chausses = right foot shoe on the ground pair of sandals + pair of chausses = right foot sandal on the ground pair of high boots + pair of socks = pair of boots worn over pair of socks pair of low boots + pair of socks = left foot sock on the ground pair of shoes + pair of socks = right foot shoe on the ground pair of sandals + pair of socks = pair of sandals worn over pair of shoes Assuming control of the dwarf and trying to [g]et and [w]ear the dropped item seems to work for some dropped items(like socks) and not others(like shoes). What did and didn't drop was a little different in 0.31.02. I hope that is clearer enough now. I am sorry for the weird sentence structure on the bug report. I usually rewrite everything I type three or four times and I sometimes miss edit somethings. ------ Should read as: "With high boots you can only wear ... a single chausses on your right foot. With socks[that is high boots + socks] they layer correctly. But with chausses + shoes or [sandals] you can wear only one shoe/[sandal] [and then only] on your left foot."

(0003412) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-13 23:22	That's much clearer now, thanks!

(0004375) PencilinHand (reporter) 2010-04-20 13:05 edited on: 2010-04-20 13:06	&%@#^%$%^(&(%$#Q($#%(^(%@#$)%@#)#@%#@%#$$#%@^%@##% Stupid session timer is too &^%@#$ short. --- The order is what matters, nothing else. Under Layer Under Layer Over Layer Over Layer It doesn't work if you are creating something in arena mode(what is dropped varies, see previous posts) or putting them on both in adventure mode and in Arena mode.

(0004379) smjjames (reporter) 2010-04-20 13:47	Huh? Session timer?

(0004751) PencilinHand (reporter) 2010-04-23 12:09	If you start writing a long note and take your time then when you finally try to add the note it will throw an error asking if you are sure you haven't added the note already. Something to do with a security identification or some such, basically you took too long so Mantis isn't sure you are you. This wouldn't be a problem except that YOU LOSE ALL YOUR WORK! This has happened to me several times and is infuriating to lose almost an hour's work of careful verification, phrasing, and rewriting to what amounts to an arbitrary "you took too long" timer.

(0021482) Toady One (administrator) 2012-03-15 04:44	I think I've got this working for 34.06 in the case when the objects all fit on the person in some permutation, and there aren't layering conflicts (that is, all the reasonable cases). If you try to put on 3 socks and 2 boots, it may depend on the order and it may leave an object on the ground that could have fit (that is, you might find 2 of the socks on the ground because it got confused), but I don't think that's an important case to catch -- the proper behavior isn't well-defined.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-11 12:59	PencilinHand	New Issue
2010-04-13 12:48	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: arena
2010-04-13 13:30	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: Arena Mode
2010-04-13 13:33	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: 31.02
2010-04-13 13:33	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: 0.31.03
2010-04-13 13:35	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: foot wear
2010-04-13 13:37	PencilinHand	Note Added: 0003320
2010-04-13 14:04	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0003323
2010-04-13 14:04	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0003323	View Revisions
2010-04-13 19:13	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-04-13 21:27	PencilinHand	Note Added: 0003395
2010-04-13 21:28	PencilinHand	Note Edited: 0003395	View Revisions
2010-04-13 21:30	PencilinHand	Note Edited: 0003395	View Revisions
2010-04-13 21:32	PencilinHand	Note Edited: 0003395	View Revisions
2010-04-13 21:33	PencilinHand	Note Edited: 0003395	View Revisions
2010-04-13 23:22	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0003412
2010-04-13 23:23	Footkerchief	Category	General => Items
2010-04-20 13:05	PencilinHand	Note Added: 0004375
2010-04-20 13:06	PencilinHand	Note Edited: 0004375	View Revisions
2010-04-20 13:47	smjjames	Note Added: 0004379
2010-04-23 12:09	PencilinHand	Note Added: 0004751
2010-06-03 16:58	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-10-06 21:55	PencilinHand	Tag Attached: 0.31.16
2012-02-21 07:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005054
2012-03-15 04:44	Toady One	Note Added: 0021482
2012-03-15 04:44	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2012-03-15 04:44	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2012-03-15 04:44	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2012-03-15 04:44	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One