0001173: Dwarves refuse to haul accessible items until they've hauled ones that are currently inaccessible

Notes
(0003612) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-14 20:44	A save with all the stuff marked for dumping would probably be handy for this one. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0005390) jfs (reporter) 2010-04-27 13:49	I believe I've experienced this in 40d too.

(0005734) zagibu (reporter) 2010-04-30 00:10	Hmmm, this might be why my dwarves refuse to stockpile wood logs that have recently been cut down. They did get them for dumping, though.

(0008445) ChickenLips (reporter) 2010-06-14 19:37	I have a save of this if you're still interested, Foot. Fortress in siege alert. Have stone marked for Dumping in a cavern that I forgot to include in the Burrow -- cavern probably has 20, 30. Much, much other stone marked for Dumping as well. 20-35 dwarves staying idle until I either include that area in the Burrow or remove the Dumping designations for those stones.

(0008446) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-14 19:54	The save might be useful, yes.

(0008454) ChickenLips (reporter) 2010-06-14 20:47 edited on: 2010-06-14 20:55	Very well then. It may be found here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2513 [^] Hope it helps. Incidentally, this one also has the goblins-milling-about-outside-despite-an-open-door-to-the-south thing going on. EDIT: Oh, for quick reference the problematic area excluded from the Burrow is the circular one to the east of the main complex, on level 143, with tetrahedrite in its SW wall section. The Burrow is the one called "North Tower," which is default. EDIT AGAIN: This save also has had one wall construction (the northernmost one in the keep on lvl 149) that has been Waiting for construction forever despite idle masons. Not sure if it's a bug or something I'm missing, but, in case it's a bug involving the job not assigned, here it is.

(0008940) Telarin (reporter) 2010-06-22 04:49 edited on: 2010-06-22 04:50	I have experienced this same problem when I have my Civ restricted to a particular burrow. They eventually reach a point where everyone wants to haul items from outside the burrow and they will no longer take any hauling jobs inside the burrow. They all will just repeatedly spam: "Urist McHauler cancels Store Item in Bin: Item inaccessible"

(0010190) Mafia_Puppet (reporter) 2010-07-13 19:38	I had a similar problem with my fort. I had my dwarves restricted to burrows Ｉｎｓｉｄｅ, and the "Urist McHauler cancels Store Item in Bin: Item inaccessible" propagated to the point that I had all 30 of my haulers idle trying to haul items outside the burrow to stockpiles. It fixed when I let me dwarves out of my burrows. It took half an hour for them to get get through their queued hauling orders outside and get back to hauling things I cared about. It seems like they queue up haul orders in some kind of priority, too, because even though they locked up and refused to haul blocks, bars, wood, and refuse, they still happily hauled food and drink. It seems like Ｉｔ takes time for them to lock up, though. I went 15 years inside before my dwarves ground to a halt, but I did notice hauling productivity gradually decline over time. Obvious quickfix is to make sure everything outside is on forbid, but that really sucks when I want to harvest goblinite for iron and bolts. THE haulers I let leave the fort to collect them never locked up, but all the other haulers I didn't let out did. I didn't try forbidding everything after the hauling lockup, so it's still possible that another quick fix is just to forbid and unforbid everything to reset the process since it seems to take several years to fully lock up.

(0012379) Unvalanced (reporter) 2010-09-03 08:59	Forbidding doesn't always resolve the issue; I was finally forced to undesignate all stockpiles and dumping operations in inaccessible areas. (Fortunately, this was just the surface, and I'm on a flat map, which makes this easy.)

(0012382) kwieland (reporter) 2010-09-03 09:59	@Chickenlips: I had a similar thing happen with a construction of a floor. 3 game years and it still wasn't happening! I was building a floor tile from one accessible tile to an inaccessible area. The only access to the other area would be by the floor that I wanted to construct. I didn't pay attention and must have picked a stone for the floor that was on the ground in the inaccessible part.Therefore the job never could be done as the stone that was to be used to make the floor was on the inaccessible side!

(0013040) schm0 (reporter) 2010-09-28 08:58	I've had this issue as well, as after the construction of my outer walls all of my skirmishes were initially outside the fortress itself. In between ambushes, I have multiple dwarves sent outside to pick up the remains. Now that my wall is built, skirmishes take place at the gate. Gathering the spoils of war and a few remaining pieces of stone are sporadic at best. I've tried the forbid/unforbid trick with little to no success. I also regularly lock my dwarfs inside during ambushes, so this doesn't seem to work either.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-14 17:56	Syndic	New Issue
2010-04-14 20:44	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0003612
2010-04-24 00:48	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001267
2010-04-26 19:11	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000074
2010-04-26 21:06	Footkerchief	Summary	dump-designated items an inaccessable area prevent dwarves from dumping accessable dump-designated items => Dwarves refuse to haul accessible items until they've hauled ones that are currently inaccessible
2010-04-26 21:06	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001519
2010-04-26 21:07	Footkerchief	Sticky Issue	No => Yes
2010-04-27 13:49	jfs	Note Added: 0005390
2010-04-30 00:10	zagibu	Note Added: 0005734
2010-06-14 19:37	ChickenLips	Note Added: 0008445
2010-06-14 19:54	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008446
2010-06-14 20:47	ChickenLips	Note Added: 0008454
2010-06-14 20:50	ChickenLips	Note Edited: 0008454	View Revisions
2010-06-14 20:55	ChickenLips	Note Edited: 0008454	View Revisions
2010-06-22 04:49	Telarin	Note Added: 0008940
2010-06-22 04:50	Telarin	Note Edited: 0008940	View Revisions
2010-07-11 10:02	Profligate	Issue Monitored: Profligate
2010-07-13 19:38	Mafia_Puppet	Note Added: 0010190
2010-09-03 08:59	Unvalanced	Note Added: 0012379
2010-09-03 09:59	kwieland	Note Added: 0012382
2010-09-28 08:58	schm0	Note Added: 0013040
2010-09-28 08:58	schm0	Issue Monitored: schm0
2010-09-28 11:45	Dame de la Licorne	Issue Monitored: Dame de la Licorne
2010-10-14 08:22	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-12-02 07:57	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003765
2011-02-25 02:55	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001501
2011-02-25 06:43	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0001267
2011-03-09 04:03	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2011-03-09 04:03	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.22
2011-03-09 04:03	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2011-03-09 04:03	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2011-03-09 04:53	Dwarfu	Sticky Issue	Yes => No
2011-03-09 17:25	Khym Chanur	Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2011-03-21 12:55	Dame de la Licorne	Issue End Monitor: Dame de la Licorne
2011-04-01 12:51	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000796