0001280: Withered plants don't disappear, due to plant material lacking ROTS

(0004011)
king doom (reporter)
2010-04-17 17:11

I've definately seen plants withering in df_31_02, if this is real then it's from the newest version.

(0004019)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2010-04-18 01:34

I have seen a lot of plants withering, happens in 0.31.03 too.

(0004021)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-18 01:38

Are we talking about withering before or after being harvested?

(0005218)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 17:37

Any updates?

(0005338)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-04-27 08:08

I've noticed plants don't seem to rot. Plants do not have a [ROT] token on them in 31.03 unlike the other things that can rot, such as meat.

I noticed this because I prefer using very large farm fields with growing all year round to use up all of the seeds so they don't use up my bags. Food stockpiles are specialized for each type of plant and a limited size, with no refuse stockpile accepting plants. This is so that any extra plants are harvested but not hauled anyways, and so just rot in the field. They don't produce miasma so this is fine.

But I started getting piles of plump helmets 10-20 stacks deep on each tile of my fields.

Adding in the [ROT] token to the materials file seems to have helped. The extra plants just wither away.

(0008169)
immibis (reporter)
2010-06-11 18:49

Bump because it's still not resolved. I'm talking about plants withering after being harvested - if there's no stockpile room then you get huge piles of plants on top of the farm.

(0008179)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-12 01:59

I suspect this is because the plants are considered inside the farm "building" which protects them or some crap.

(0009085)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-06-25 08:54

Plants don't wither when left outside either.
In Adventurer mode, I visited a cave which had hundreds of units of food scattered around outside, killed the resident giants, then left. When I came back a month later, most of the meat was rotten but the plants were intact. Nearly two years later, all of the plants (mostly plump helmets) were entirely intact.

(0009091)
kwieland (reporter)
2010-06-25 10:22

Actually, in .08 I have plants that wither. I know because they are on the garbage stockpile. They have not disappeared, though, after two game years.

(0009094)
ChickenLips (reporter)
2010-06-25 11:00

I noticed that withered plants do not disappear. I eventually had to use the atom smasher to get rid of them 3 or 4 years on.

(0009167)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-06-27 08:49

Looks like they don't wither or rot even when harvested but not hauled to any stockpile in 31.08. I had 10+ stacks of sun berries on each tile of my farm plot after years of farming, and none of them had rotted.

I added in the [ROTS] token to the plant materials listing, and within a month all of the sun berries not in a food stockpile became withered. The withered sunberries were then hauled to my refuse stockpile, where they vanished after only a few more months.

It looks like plants just need the rot token in, and they'll behave normally again.

(0009178)
kwieland (reporter)
2010-06-27 18:38

Good sleuthing, hydis!

(0012217)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-28 14:00

The only time plants seem to wither is if you fail to harvest them in time.

(0013080)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-09-30 08:23

Add in the [ROTS] tag and its all fixed! :D

(0013094)
jogar2 (reporter)
2010-09-30 20:41

Where, exactly? In STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE in material_template_default.txt?

(0013103)
Malibu Stacey (reporter)
2010-10-01 15:52

Yes jogar2. That fixes it.

(0013122)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-10-02 04:26

I've added [ROTS] to leaves and plant structure now for 0.31.15. Hopefully that doesn't have any unwelcome side effects.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-17 17:08	immibis	New Issue
2010-04-17 17:11	king doom	Note Added: 0004011
2010-04-18 01:34	Rafal99	Note Added: 0004019
2010-04-18 01:38	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0004021
2010-04-18 01:39	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-26 17:37	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005218
2010-04-27 08:08	hyndis	Note Added: 0005338
2010-06-11 18:49	immibis	Note Added: 0008169
2010-06-12 01:59	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008179
2010-06-25 08:54	Quietust	Note Added: 0009085
2010-06-25 10:22	kwieland	Note Added: 0009091
2010-06-25 11:00	ChickenLips	Note Added: 0009094
2010-06-25 11:06	Footkerchief	Summary	Plants don't wither => Withered plants don't disappear
2010-06-25 11:18	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001522
2010-06-25 12:52	kwieland	Issue Monitored: kwieland
2010-06-25 14:20	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-06-27 08:49	hyndis	Note Added: 0009167
2010-06-27 17:22	Threlicus	Issue Monitored: Threlicus
2010-06-27 18:38	kwieland	Note Added: 0009178
2010-06-27 19:26	Footkerchief	Summary	Withered plants don't disappear => Withered plants don't disappear, due to plant material lacking ROTS
2010-06-30 17:20	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-07-13 08:44	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Probable Quick Fix
2010-08-28 14:00	Quietust	Note Added: 0012217
2010-09-08 12:01	Kennel	Tag Attached: material
2010-09-08 12:01	Kennel	Tag Attached: plant
2010-09-08 12:01	Kennel	Tag Attached: rotting
2010-09-26 09:04	Another	Issue Monitored: Another
2010-09-30 08:23	hyndis	Note Added: 0013080
2010-09-30 20:41	jogar2	Note Added: 0013094
2010-10-01 15:52	Malibu Stacey	Note Added: 0013103
2010-10-02 04:26	Toady One	Note Added: 0013122
2010-10-02 04:26	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2010-10-02 04:26	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.15
2010-10-02 04:26	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-10-02 04:26	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2010-10-02 04:57	kwieland	Issue End Monitor: kwieland
2010-10-02 11:42	Dwarfu	Issue End Monitor: Dwarfu
2010-10-04 14:02	Another	Issue End Monitor: Another
2010-10-14 07:53	Khym Chanur	Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-11-02 21:04	Threlicus	Issue End Monitor: Threlicus
2011-03-28 12:26	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000469
2014-01-17 10:40	Kirig Stonebeard	Issue Monitored: Kirig Stonebeard

Notes
(0004011) king doom (reporter) 2010-04-17 17:11	I've definately seen plants withering in df_31_02, if this is real then it's from the newest version.

(0004019) Rafal99 (reporter) 2010-04-18 01:34	I have seen a lot of plants withering, happens in 0.31.03 too.

(0004021) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-18 01:38	Are we talking about withering before or after being harvested?

(0005218) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 17:37	Any updates?

(0005338) hyndis (reporter) 2010-04-27 08:08	I've noticed plants don't seem to rot. Plants do not have a [ROT] token on them in 31.03 unlike the other things that can rot, such as meat. I noticed this because I prefer using very large farm fields with growing all year round to use up all of the seeds so they don't use up my bags. Food stockpiles are specialized for each type of plant and a limited size, with no refuse stockpile accepting plants. This is so that any extra plants are harvested but not hauled anyways, and so just rot in the field. They don't produce miasma so this is fine. But I started getting piles of plump helmets 10-20 stacks deep on each tile of my fields. Adding in the [ROT] token to the materials file seems to have helped. The extra plants just wither away.

(0008169) immibis (reporter) 2010-06-11 18:49	Bump because it's still not resolved. I'm talking about plants withering after being harvested - if there's no stockpile room then you get huge piles of plants on top of the farm.

(0008179) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-12 01:59	I suspect this is because the plants are considered inside the farm "building" which protects them or some crap.

(0009085) Quietust (reporter) 2010-06-25 08:54	Plants don't wither when left outside either. In Adventurer mode, I visited a cave which had hundreds of units of food scattered around outside, killed the resident giants, then left. When I came back a month later, most of the meat was rotten but the plants were intact. Nearly two years later, all of the plants (mostly plump helmets) were entirely intact.

(0009091) kwieland (reporter) 2010-06-25 10:22	Actually, in .08 I have plants that wither. I know because they are on the garbage stockpile. They have not disappeared, though, after two game years.

(0009094) ChickenLips (reporter) 2010-06-25 11:00	I noticed that withered plants do not disappear. I eventually had to use the atom smasher to get rid of them 3 or 4 years on.

(0009167) hyndis (reporter) 2010-06-27 08:49	Looks like they don't wither or rot even when harvested but not hauled to any stockpile in 31.08. I had 10+ stacks of sun berries on each tile of my farm plot after years of farming, and none of them had rotted. I added in the [ROTS] token to the plant materials listing, and within a month all of the sun berries not in a food stockpile became withered. The withered sunberries were then hauled to my refuse stockpile, where they vanished after only a few more months. It looks like plants just need the rot token in, and they'll behave normally again.

(0009178) kwieland (reporter) 2010-06-27 18:38	Good sleuthing, hydis!

(0012217) Quietust (reporter) 2010-08-28 14:00	The only time plants seem to wither is if you fail to harvest them in time.

(0013080) hyndis (reporter) 2010-09-30 08:23	Add in the [ROTS] tag and its all fixed! :D

(0013094) jogar2 (reporter) 2010-09-30 20:41	Where, exactly? In STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE in material_template_default.txt?

(0013103) Malibu Stacey (reporter) 2010-10-01 15:52	Yes jogar2. That fixes it.

(0013122) Toady One (administrator) 2010-10-02 04:26	I've added [ROTS] to leaves and plant structure now for 0.31.15. Hopefully that doesn't have any unwelcome side effects.