0001554: Items not getting dumped because of invisible, unremovable zones

(0005167)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2010-04-26 13:13

Look at the Orders (o) then (r)efuse and make sure dwarves are set to 'gather refuse' and 'gather refuse from outside'.

(0005168)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 13:23
edited on: 2010-04-26 13:23

Yes, I have them set to Gather Refuse, they are also set to Gather from Outside. Setting it to inside doesn't change that.

Also, when I say they have stopped dumping, I mean they have stopped dumping ALL items, not just refuse. For instance, a bunch of pig tail clothing I wanted dumped is just sitting in the hallway.

The dwarves are not restricted to burrows, they are allowed to go wherever they want. Just just aren't dumping anything.

(0005170)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 13:26

Sounds like 0001173?

(0005171)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 13:37

Hmm, yeah, that's quite possible. I haven't been exactly tidy with checking for access when designating for dump, since I marked a buncha stuff 'dump' via the stocks screen... Probably the same bug, in that case.

(0005172)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 13:40

Hmm. Let us know what happens if you get the other items dumped or unmark them for dumping.

(0005174)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 13:48
edited on: 2010-04-26 13:50

After unmarking all items from Dump to neutral status, I let the game run for about five minutes. Then I selectively re-marked certain items for dump: Hoof, Tooth, Cartilege and Hair items, as well as some Pig Tail Fiber clothes of verying sorts - caps, socks, etc.

No dice. No dumping. However, they do seem to be auto-dumping remains I have designated under Orders.

(0005179)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 14:10

The clothing may be owned (I think you can check this by viewing the item via 'k') or assigned for military use (no easy way to check this AFAIK).

The body parts, though... can you get them to move those to a refuse stockpile?

(0005182)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 14:19

They're in one now. The whole way I discovered this is there was rotting meat in my stockpile, and I wanted to dump the whole load of refuse there. Lo and behold, they are content to leave all my cow and horse hooves in the stockpile, rather than toss it.

(0005188)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 14:49

Hm. If you mark random other items for dumping, what happens to those? Is your refuse stockpile full? 0001267 may be at work here.

(0005191)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 15:23

Marked random Granite (both inside and outside of stockpiles) for dumping, and nobody wanted to dump them either.

(0005192)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 15:31

Try removing all your refuse stockpiles, then see if they'll do the dump jobs.

(0005202)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 16:44

Tried it, no dice.

(0005203)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 16:47
edited on: 2010-04-26 16:47

Well damn. I'm out of ideas; you should probably upload a save. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

Had you dug into the adamantine/magma sea by any chance?

(0005206)
Adarael (reporter)
2010-04-26 17:03

Nah, not yet. Some underground caverns that are doing the "cavern collapse" dance every time I load the save, but that's been going on pretty much since the beginning of the game.

The save file is here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2243 [^]

(0005230)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 19:16

Alright, I looked at it and I'm pretty sure it's 0000074. Open the [R]ooms list and scroll down to the zones -- the first 3 are totally invisible, but they're probably still getting the dump jobs.

(0007764)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-06-06 00:43

I'm downloading this one to have a look now. I've fixed 0000074, and looking at how dump jobs look, it should just pass over the 0-tile zones, even if they aren't deleted properly. I'll see what I can figure out.

(0007767)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-06-06 00:54

I made a garbage dump zone and they threw a stone away for me, so if it was the lingering zones, that's fixed, and if not, I can't reproduce it. I'll mark it as resolved and we'll see if there are further problems.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-26 13:06	Adarael	New Issue
2010-04-26 13:13	Rafal99	Note Added: 0005167
2010-04-26 13:23	Adarael	Note Added: 0005168
2010-04-26 13:23	Adarael	Note Edited: 0005168	View Revisions
2010-04-26 13:26	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005170
2010-04-26 13:27	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-26 13:37	Adarael	Note Added: 0005171
2010-04-26 13:37	Adarael	Tag Attached: Duplicate
2010-04-26 13:40	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005172
2010-04-26 13:48	Adarael	Note Added: 0005174
2010-04-26 13:50	Adarael	Note Edited: 0005174	View Revisions
2010-04-26 14:10	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005179
2010-04-26 14:19	Adarael	Note Added: 0005182
2010-04-26 14:49	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005188
2010-04-26 15:23	Adarael	Note Added: 0005191
2010-04-26 15:31	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005192
2010-04-26 16:44	Adarael	Note Added: 0005202
2010-04-26 16:47	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005203
2010-04-26 16:47	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0005203	View Revisions
2010-04-26 17:03	Adarael	Note Added: 0005206
2010-04-26 19:16	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005230
2010-04-26 19:16	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000074
2010-04-26 19:17	Footkerchief	Summary	Dwarves have ceased dumping. => Items not getting dumped because of invisible, unremovable zones
2010-04-29 13:23	Footkerchief	Category	Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Hauling => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Activity Zones
2010-06-06 00:43	Toady One	Relationship replaced	related to 0000074
2010-06-06 00:43	Toady One	Note Added: 0007764
2010-06-06 00:43	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2010-06-06 00:43	Toady One	Status	new => acknowledged
2010-06-06 00:49	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: Duplicate
2010-06-06 00:54	Toady One	Note Added: 0007767
2010-06-06 00:54	Toady One	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2010-06-06 00:54	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.06
2010-06-06 00:54	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-06-06 09:00	Footkerchief	Resolution	fixed => duplicate
2010-06-08 05:47	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001068
2010-06-09 06:45	Toady One	Status	resolved => closed
2010-06-09 07:56	Footkerchief	Status	closed => resolved

Notes
(0005167) Rafal99 (reporter) 2010-04-26 13:13	Look at the Orders (o) then (r)efuse and make sure dwarves are set to 'gather refuse' and 'gather refuse from outside'.

(0005168) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 13:23 edited on: 2010-04-26 13:23	Yes, I have them set to Gather Refuse, they are also set to Gather from Outside. Setting it to inside doesn't change that. Also, when I say they have stopped dumping, I mean they have stopped dumping ALL items, not just refuse. For instance, a bunch of pig tail clothing I wanted dumped is just sitting in the hallway. The dwarves are not restricted to burrows, they are allowed to go wherever they want. Just just aren't dumping anything.

(0005170) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 13:26	Sounds like 0001173?

(0005171) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 13:37	Hmm, yeah, that's quite possible. I haven't been exactly tidy with checking for access when designating for dump, since I marked a buncha stuff 'dump' via the stocks screen... Probably the same bug, in that case.

(0005172) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 13:40	Hmm. Let us know what happens if you get the other items dumped or unmark them for dumping.

(0005174) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 13:48 edited on: 2010-04-26 13:50	After unmarking all items from Dump to neutral status, I let the game run for about five minutes. Then I selectively re-marked certain items for dump: Hoof, Tooth, Cartilege and Hair items, as well as some Pig Tail Fiber clothes of verying sorts - caps, socks, etc. No dice. No dumping. However, they do seem to be auto-dumping remains I have designated under Orders.

(0005179) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 14:10	The clothing may be owned (I think you can check this by viewing the item via 'k') or assigned for military use (no easy way to check this AFAIK). The body parts, though... can you get them to move those to a refuse stockpile?

(0005182) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 14:19	They're in one now. The whole way I discovered this is there was rotting meat in my stockpile, and I wanted to dump the whole load of refuse there. Lo and behold, they are content to leave all my cow and horse hooves in the stockpile, rather than toss it.

(0005188) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 14:49	Hm. If you mark random other items for dumping, what happens to those? Is your refuse stockpile full? 0001267 may be at work here.

(0005191) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 15:23	Marked random Granite (both inside and outside of stockpiles) for dumping, and nobody wanted to dump them either.

(0005192) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 15:31	Try removing all your refuse stockpiles, then see if they'll do the dump jobs.

(0005202) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 16:44	Tried it, no dice.

(0005203) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 16:47 edited on: 2010-04-26 16:47	Well damn. I'm out of ideas; you should probably upload a save. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] Had you dug into the adamantine/magma sea by any chance?

(0005206) Adarael (reporter) 2010-04-26 17:03	Nah, not yet. Some underground caverns that are doing the "cavern collapse" dance every time I load the save, but that's been going on pretty much since the beginning of the game. The save file is here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2243 [^]

(0005230) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-26 19:16	Alright, I looked at it and I'm pretty sure it's 0000074. Open the [R]ooms list and scroll down to the zones -- the first 3 are totally invisible, but they're probably still getting the dump jobs.

(0007764) Toady One (administrator) 2010-06-06 00:43	I'm downloading this one to have a look now. I've fixed 0000074, and looking at how dump jobs look, it should just pass over the 0-tile zones, even if they aren't deleted properly. I'll see what I can figure out.

(0007767) Toady One (administrator) 2010-06-06 00:54	I made a garbage dump zone and they threw a stone away for me, so if it was the lingering zones, that's fixed, and if not, I can't reproduce it. I'll mark it as resolved and we'll see if there are further problems.