0000159: Mood failed because dwarf cannot find needed material

(0000572)
Aquillion (reporter)
2010-04-03 10:33

The skeletons in question were created by rot, right?

This bug is caused, I believe, by the fact that the skeleton contains both bones and a skull, and they are unable to use only one of those things. You can't use skeletons left by rotting for anything now, IIRC.

(0000578)
garanis (reporter)
2010-04-03 10:55

When a dwarf shouts for skeletons during a mood, they really mean that they want bones. The issue is that they wanted bones, and there were plenty of unforbidden stacks of bones lying around, but the dwarf would not use them.

(0000823)
RiceMunk (reporter)
2010-04-04 01:44

Had one of my dorfs go crazy too from not being able to find his materials despite them being available. He needed two mats and at least one of them was plant fiber thread. Can't rightly remember what the second one was, though. Might've been shells?

(0002550)
stele007 (reporter)
2010-04-10 04:18

I had a possessed dwarf ask for bones once (sat on the "xxx xxx needs bones... yes..." for 2 seconds then went to stone) but collected 3 stacks of bones (stack of 13, 7, and 15) before gathering other materials. Not sure if this is really a bug as they might just require more bones, but it seems misleading to me.

(0003550)
BP1986 (reporter)
2010-04-14 14:23

Have one going right now, possessed dwarf wants "stone... rock..." (stone) and "bars... metal..." (metal bars), there are many stockpiles of different stone around, and started up a metal operation recently and have about 30 metal bars preped (iron, silver, zinc and lead). Making a backup and if anyone wants it uploaded for further testing, ask here! :)

(0005580)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-28 13:48

BP1986: that save might be handy, yeah. Also, is the dwarf assigned to a burrow? Is the workshop he claimed in a burrow?

(0009749)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-07-07 16:36

Are you sure he didn't want a shell? Sometimes he'll say "body parts" when he actually wants a shell.

Shells are the leading cause of death in my forts. :(

(0010376)
Captain Xenon (reporter)
2010-07-15 15:08

i seem to be having the 'body parts = shells' problem myself. i keep finding wonderful interesting sites with no shellfish to catch in the biome, and you cant trade for shells anymore.

(0010377)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-07-15 15:19
edited on: 2010-07-15 15:19

You can workaround it by adding in the [SHELL] tag to other body parts in the matgloss file, like hooves, horns, hair, or anything else you want.

(0010379)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-15 15:39

You can workaround it by adding in the [SHELL] tag to other body parts in the matgloss file, like hooves, horns, hair, or anything else you want.

Just don't do it in an already-generated world, or you'll get a crash: 0001271

(0010943)
cephalo (reporter)
2010-07-24 23:00
edited on: 2010-07-24 23:00

Ok, I think I have this one figured out. Here's the issue, if your moody dwarf is assigned to a burrow, he will not leave the burrow to get items.

I have a legendary armorer that gained his skill naturally without a mood. I wanted to keep him safe so I assigned him to the 'safety' burrow a long time ago. He got possessed, and his project needed alot of bones. He grabbed two stacks of bones from an internal refuse stockpile and then stopped. I could not figure out what the problem was because I had everything he asked for.

The problem was that my internal refuse pile was full of non-bone random body parts, and all my bone stacks other than the first two were in the outside refuse pile! So as soon as I remembered that he was assigned to the inside burrow and unassigned him, he went to get the outside bones!

(0010946)
burlingk (reporter)
2010-07-25 00:06

I have heard (But not confirmed) that hooves can act as shells.

(0023577)
kwieland (reporter)
2012-09-14 20:35

Dwarfs also will not search in forbidden bins for things. I'm not sure if this is by design or not. Thus even if your cloth/bars/gems/etc are not directly forbidden (as in on the Z-stock screen), but the bin they are contained in is forbidden, your mood will fail.

(0024082)
Rinin (reporter)
2013-07-28 03:13

One more note, Dwarf could want for example "3x raw green glass", but he'll stay in workshop if you have only 2x "raw green glass"

Seems "Nx items" represents as one "demand", not as N separate demands.

Not sure is it bug or not.

(0024083)
Quietust (reporter)
2013-07-28 05:41

Only the primary demand gets condensed down like that - it shows up for 2 seconds when querying the workshop, but the actual quantity can be anywhere from 1 to 3.

(0024411)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-01-27 13:29

If you have a save that demonstrates this problem in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and reopen this report (or PM me on the forums).

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-02 11:18	garanis	New Issue
2010-04-02 12:00	arcaner	Tag Attached: mood
2010-04-03 10:33	Aquillion	Note Added: 0000572
2010-04-03 10:35	Aquillion	Tag Attached: bones
2010-04-03 10:35	Aquillion	Tag Attached: skeletons
2010-04-03 10:55	garanis	Note Added: 0000578
2010-04-04 01:44	RiceMunk	Note Added: 0000823
2010-04-08 18:26	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0000835
2010-04-10 04:18	stele007	Note Added: 0002550
2010-04-14 14:23	BP1986	Note Added: 0003550
2010-04-26 17:13	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0000835
2010-04-26 17:13	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-28 13:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0005580
2010-04-28 13:48	Footkerchief	Category	General => Dwarf Mode -- Artifacts
2010-04-28 13:52	Footkerchief	Category	Dwarf Mode -- Artifacts => Dwarf Mode -- Moods
2010-07-07 16:10	Creidieki	Tag Attached: bury
2010-07-07 16:10	Creidieki	Tag Detached: bury
2010-07-07 16:36	hyndis	Note Added: 0009749
2010-07-07 17:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000845
2010-07-15 15:08	Captain Xenon	Note Added: 0010376
2010-07-15 15:19	hyndis	Note Added: 0010377
2010-07-15 15:19	hyndis	Note Edited: 0010377	View Revisions
2010-07-15 15:39	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0010379
2010-07-22 09:28	beef623	Issue Monitored: beef623
2010-07-24 23:00	cephalo	Note Added: 0010943
2010-07-24 23:00	cephalo	Note Edited: 0010943	View Revisions
2010-07-25 00:06	burlingk	Note Added: 0010946
2012-09-14 20:35	kwieland	Note Added: 0023577
2013-07-28 03:13	Rinin	Note Added: 0024082
2013-07-28 05:41	Quietust	Note Added: 0024083
2014-01-27 13:29	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024411
2014-01-27 13:29	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-01-27 13:29	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2014-01-27 13:29	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-01-27 13:29	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001457
2014-01-27 13:36	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0002924

Notes
(0000572) Aquillion (reporter) 2010-04-03 10:33	The skeletons in question were created by rot, right? This bug is caused, I believe, by the fact that the skeleton contains both bones and a skull, and they are unable to use only one of those things. You can't use skeletons left by rotting for anything now, IIRC.

(0000578) garanis (reporter) 2010-04-03 10:55	When a dwarf shouts for skeletons during a mood, they really mean that they want bones. The issue is that they wanted bones, and there were plenty of unforbidden stacks of bones lying around, but the dwarf would not use them.

(0000823) RiceMunk (reporter) 2010-04-04 01:44	Had one of my dorfs go crazy too from not being able to find his materials despite them being available. He needed two mats and at least one of them was plant fiber thread. Can't rightly remember what the second one was, though. Might've been shells?

(0002550) stele007 (reporter) 2010-04-10 04:18	I had a possessed dwarf ask for bones once (sat on the "xxx xxx needs bones... yes..." for 2 seconds then went to stone) but collected 3 stacks of bones (stack of 13, 7, and 15) before gathering other materials. Not sure if this is really a bug as they might just require more bones, but it seems misleading to me.

(0003550) BP1986 (reporter) 2010-04-14 14:23	Have one going right now, possessed dwarf wants "stone... rock..." (stone) and "bars... metal..." (metal bars), there are many stockpiles of different stone around, and started up a metal operation recently and have about 30 metal bars preped (iron, silver, zinc and lead). Making a backup and if anyone wants it uploaded for further testing, ask here! :)

(0005580) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-28 13:48	BP1986: that save might be handy, yeah. Also, is the dwarf assigned to a burrow? Is the workshop he claimed in a burrow?

(0009749) hyndis (reporter) 2010-07-07 16:36	Are you sure he didn't want a shell? Sometimes he'll say "body parts" when he actually wants a shell. Shells are the leading cause of death in my forts. :(

(0010376) Captain Xenon (reporter) 2010-07-15 15:08	i seem to be having the 'body parts = shells' problem myself. i keep finding wonderful interesting sites with no shellfish to catch in the biome, and you cant trade for shells anymore.

(0010377) hyndis (reporter) 2010-07-15 15:19 edited on: 2010-07-15 15:19	You can workaround it by adding in the [SHELL] tag to other body parts in the matgloss file, like hooves, horns, hair, or anything else you want.

(0010379) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-15 15:39	You can workaround it by adding in the [SHELL] tag to other body parts in the matgloss file, like hooves, horns, hair, or anything else you want. Just don't do it in an already-generated world, or you'll get a crash: 0001271

(0010943) cephalo (reporter) 2010-07-24 23:00 edited on: 2010-07-24 23:00	Ok, I think I have this one figured out. Here's the issue, if your moody dwarf is assigned to a burrow, he will not leave the burrow to get items. I have a legendary armorer that gained his skill naturally without a mood. I wanted to keep him safe so I assigned him to the 'safety' burrow a long time ago. He got possessed, and his project needed alot of bones. He grabbed two stacks of bones from an internal refuse stockpile and then stopped. I could not figure out what the problem was because I had everything he asked for. The problem was that my internal refuse pile was full of non-bone random body parts, and all my bone stacks other than the first two were in the outside refuse pile! So as soon as I remembered that he was assigned to the inside burrow and unassigned him, he went to get the outside bones!

(0010946) burlingk (reporter) 2010-07-25 00:06	I have heard (But not confirmed) that hooves can act as shells.

(0023577) kwieland (reporter) 2012-09-14 20:35	Dwarfs also will not search in forbidden bins for things. I'm not sure if this is by design or not. Thus even if your cloth/bars/gems/etc are not directly forbidden (as in on the Z-stock screen), but the bin they are contained in is forbidden, your mood will fail.

(0024082) Rinin (reporter) 2013-07-28 03:13	One more note, Dwarf could want for example "3x raw green glass", but he'll stay in workshop if you have only 2x "raw green glass" Seems "Nx items" represents as one "demand", not as N separate demands. Not sure is it bug or not.

(0024083) Quietust (reporter) 2013-07-28 05:41	Only the primary demand gets condensed down like that - it shows up for 2 seconds when querying the workshop, but the actual quantity can be anywhere from 1 to 3.

(0024411) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-01-27 13:29	If you have a save that demonstrates this problem in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and reopen this report (or PM me on the forums).