0001795: Dwarves are unable to take items from bins when the stockpile setting are changed

(0006347)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-05-07 04:01

Related to 0001216

(0006350)
tatterdemalian (reporter)
2010-05-07 06:12

Actually a bit different, as I've noticed dwarves will not remove the contents of bins or barrels for any reason other than using their contents in a job, never for moving them to another stockpile. I had one bin containing both charcoal and potash from a stockpile that I removed, after creating two separate stockpiles (one with charcoal allowed and potash forbidden next to my smelter, the other with potash allowed and charcoal forbidden next to my farm). Three years later, the bin is still sitting there, still containing charcoal and potash, with only one bar of charcoal missing (it was used in a furnace when the charcoal stockpile ran out).

(0006367)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-07 10:31

This is an old one -- I think I reported this back in 38c or thereabouts, or asked about it in Gameplay Questions, and was told that it's been this way forever.

(0006371)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-05-07 11:26
edited on: 2010-05-07 11:26

agreed, this isn't new. Stockpiles have been quirky for a while. Take from stockpile just won't sort bins for you, it will take the entire bin/barrel or nothing, but not pull individual items out of the container.

For a workaround, play with the forbid settings. You can force them to move stuff from one stockpile to another pretty easily with these.

(0006373)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-05-07 12:12

In the older version, at least, I seem to recall that the bin had to be assigned to a stockpile that permitted all of its contents, at which point you could tell the destination stockpile to [t]ake from the source. Given that "take from stockpile" is broken right now, though, this probably doesn't help much.

(0008247)
Shaggy Frog (reporter)
2010-06-12 23:41

Still happening in 31.06. I have some wooden training weapons mixed with some metal weapons in a bin. Very annoying!

(0022293)
mikemayday (reporter)
2012-04-17 16:28

Still happens in 34.07
I wanted to emphasize that if a bin with contents is outside of any stockpile, dwarves won't take out the contents to take them to a proper stockpile either.
So the proper description for this bug is indeed: dwarves only take items out of bins for jobs, never for hauling.

(0022294)
Videospirit (reporter)
2012-04-17 17:48

You can mark the items inside the bin for dumping until it no longer contains a mix I believe.

(0022295)
danaris (reporter)
2012-04-17 18:42

Now that [t]ake items from another stockpile works, will dwarves take items out of bins to fulfil it?

(0022305)
Kumquat (reporter)
2012-04-18 08:16

The summary line is misleading - dwarfs do take items from bins if stockpile settings are changed and there's a new stockpile for the items, but if the bin is not in a stockpile (such as when an old stockpile is removed) then the contents won't get hauled.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-07 04:00	Jiri Petru	New Issue
2010-05-07 04:01	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0006347
2010-05-07 06:12	tatterdemalian	Note Added: 0006350
2010-05-07 10:31	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0006367
2010-05-07 11:26	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0006371
2010-05-07 11:26	DoctorZuber	Note Edited: 0006371	View Revisions
2010-05-07 12:12	Quietust	Note Added: 0006373
2010-06-03 09:06	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-03 09:06	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0001760
2010-06-12 23:41	Shaggy Frog	Note Added: 0008247
2010-06-12 23:42	Shaggy Frog	Issue Monitored: Shaggy Frog
2010-06-13 00:48	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	child of 0001760
2010-06-13 00:48	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001216
2010-06-29 16:54	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002517
2010-07-12 12:03	Footkerchief	Tag Renamed	Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2012-04-17 16:28	mikemayday	Note Added: 0022293
2012-04-17 17:48	Videospirit	Note Added: 0022294
2012-04-17 18:42	danaris	Note Added: 0022295
2012-04-18 08:16	Kumquat	Note Added: 0022305

Notes
(0006347) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-05-07 04:01	Related to 0001216

(0006350) tatterdemalian (reporter) 2010-05-07 06:12	Actually a bit different, as I've noticed dwarves will not remove the contents of bins or barrels for any reason other than using their contents in a job, never for moving them to another stockpile. I had one bin containing both charcoal and potash from a stockpile that I removed, after creating two separate stockpiles (one with charcoal allowed and potash forbidden next to my smelter, the other with potash allowed and charcoal forbidden next to my farm). Three years later, the bin is still sitting there, still containing charcoal and potash, with only one bar of charcoal missing (it was used in a furnace when the charcoal stockpile ran out).

(0006367) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-07 10:31	This is an old one -- I think I reported this back in 38c or thereabouts, or asked about it in Gameplay Questions, and was told that it's been this way forever.

(0006371) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-05-07 11:26 edited on: 2010-05-07 11:26	agreed, this isn't new. Stockpiles have been quirky for a while. Take from stockpile just won't sort bins for you, it will take the entire bin/barrel or nothing, but not pull individual items out of the container. For a workaround, play with the forbid settings. You can force them to move stuff from one stockpile to another pretty easily with these.

(0006373) Quietust (reporter) 2010-05-07 12:12	In the older version, at least, I seem to recall that the bin had to be assigned to a stockpile that permitted all of its contents, at which point you could tell the destination stockpile to [t]ake from the source. Given that "take from stockpile" is broken right now, though, this probably doesn't help much.

(0008247) Shaggy Frog (reporter) 2010-06-12 23:41	Still happening in 31.06. I have some wooden training weapons mixed with some metal weapons in a bin. Very annoying!

(0022293) mikemayday (reporter) 2012-04-17 16:28	Still happens in 34.07 I wanted to emphasize that if a bin with contents is outside of any stockpile, dwarves won't take out the contents to take them to a proper stockpile either. So the proper description for this bug is indeed: dwarves only take items out of bins for jobs, never for hauling.

(0022294) Videospirit (reporter) 2012-04-17 17:48	You can mark the items inside the bin for dumping until it no longer contains a mix I believe.

(0022295) danaris (reporter) 2012-04-17 18:42	Now that [t]ake items from another stockpile works, will dwarves take items out of bins to fulfil it?

(0022305) Kumquat (reporter) 2012-04-18 08:16	The summary line is misleading - dwarfs do take items from bins if stockpile settings are changed and there's a new stockpile for the items, but if the bin is not in a stockpile (such as when an old stockpile is removed) then the contents won't get hauled.