0002051: Ranged bug - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0007240)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-23 22:01

Did the dwarf have the woodcutting labor enabled? Were they on or off duty at the time? Did their uniform settings require them to wear their uniforms off duty?

(0007247)
Kumquat (reporter)
2010-05-23 23:58
edited on: 2010-05-23 23:58

I have seen plenty of dorfs whose melee weapon of choice was crossbow, despite there being several hammers and maces and axes and even picks available.

I tried to force a marks-squad with crossbows but most of them never even picked up one and none of them did any practicing despite there being bolts and quivers and archery targets designated and assigned and available.

(0007248)
greep (reporter)
2010-05-24 00:41
edited on: 2010-05-24 00:55

yes woodcutting was not enabled, I started with completely clean peasants and just started like this. The dwarf in question was alone in his squad, and was thus the militia commander. Anything dealing with uniforms was just the default. I was trying from scratch trying to get crossbows to work.

(0007249)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-24 00:52
edited on: 2010-05-24 00:53

Did you verify that the bone crossbow was accessible to the soldier, not currently equipped by another dwarf, and unforbidden? Does making more crossbows change anything?

(0007250)
greep (reporter)
2010-05-24 00:56
edited on: 2010-05-24 00:56

It was accaessable and unforbidden, I'm going to try it again, hold on.

(0007251)
greep (reporter)
2010-05-24 01:04
edited on: 2010-05-24 01:06

okay, tried again with a a new fort from scratch, no skills activated and all peasants. Chose the copper axe again when I made a new squad, chose no uniform, chose equip, and chose individual choice ranged. I also made a meeting zone next to the bow, and he bypassed it in favor of the axe.

Now, without individual choice ranged, and instead crossbow, he WILL choose the crossbow.

(0007263)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-05-24 04:46

This works the other way around, too.
My hammerdwarf has "individual choice, melee". He decided to use a (-steel crossbow-). I do have a plenty of warhammers lying around but none of them are as good as (-steel-). He probably choose the crossbow because it allows HAMMER skill and is of the best combination of material/quality available.

In other words, the ranged/melee part of "individual choice" doesn't seem to work.

(0007283)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-24 09:04
edited on: 2010-05-24 09:07

Oops, I should have marked this as a duplicate of 0000084 to begin with. I've crossposted everyone's notes, so all the information is there now.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-23 20:10	greep	New Issue
2010-05-23 22:01	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007240
2010-05-23 22:01	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-05-23 23:58	Kumquat	Note Added: 0007247
2010-05-23 23:58	Kumquat	Note Edited: 0007247	View Revisions
2010-05-24 00:41	greep	Note Added: 0007248
2010-05-24 00:42	greep	Note Edited: 0007248	View Revisions
2010-05-24 00:52	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007249
2010-05-24 00:53	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0007249	View Revisions
2010-05-24 00:55	greep	Note Edited: 0007248	View Revisions
2010-05-24 00:56	greep	Note Added: 0007250
2010-05-24 00:56	greep	Note Edited: 0007250	View Revisions
2010-05-24 01:04	greep	Note Added: 0007251
2010-05-24 01:06	greep	Note Edited: 0007251	View Revisions
2010-05-24 04:46	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0007263
2010-05-24 09:04	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007283
2010-05-24 09:07	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0007283	View Revisions
2010-05-24 09:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000084
2010-05-24 09:07	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-05-24 09:07	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2010-05-24 09:07	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-06-09 06:45	Toady One	Status	resolved => closed

Notes
(0007240) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-23 22:01	Did the dwarf have the woodcutting labor enabled? Were they on or off duty at the time? Did their uniform settings require them to wear their uniforms off duty?

(0007247) Kumquat (reporter) 2010-05-23 23:58 edited on: 2010-05-23 23:58	I have seen plenty of dorfs whose melee weapon of choice was crossbow, despite there being several hammers and maces and axes and even picks available. I tried to force a marks-squad with crossbows but most of them never even picked up one and none of them did any practicing despite there being bolts and quivers and archery targets designated and assigned and available.

(0007248) greep (reporter) 2010-05-24 00:41 edited on: 2010-05-24 00:55	yes woodcutting was not enabled, I started with completely clean peasants and just started like this. The dwarf in question was alone in his squad, and was thus the militia commander. Anything dealing with uniforms was just the default. I was trying from scratch trying to get crossbows to work.

(0007249) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-24 00:52 edited on: 2010-05-24 00:53	Did you verify that the bone crossbow was accessible to the soldier, not currently equipped by another dwarf, and unforbidden? Does making more crossbows change anything?

(0007250) greep (reporter) 2010-05-24 00:56 edited on: 2010-05-24 00:56	It was accaessable and unforbidden, I'm going to try it again, hold on.

(0007251) greep (reporter) 2010-05-24 01:04 edited on: 2010-05-24 01:06	okay, tried again with a a new fort from scratch, no skills activated and all peasants. Chose the copper axe again when I made a new squad, chose no uniform, chose equip, and chose individual choice ranged. I also made a meeting zone next to the bow, and he bypassed it in favor of the axe. Now, without individual choice ranged, and instead crossbow, he WILL choose the crossbow.

(0007263) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-05-24 04:46	This works the other way around, too. My hammerdwarf has "individual choice, melee". He decided to use a (-steel crossbow-). I do have a plenty of warhammers lying around but none of them are as good as (-steel-). He probably choose the crossbow because it allows HAMMER skill and is of the best combination of material/quality available. In other words, the ranged/melee part of "individual choice" doesn't seem to work.

(0007283) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-24 09:04 edited on: 2010-05-24 09:07	Oops, I should have marked this as a duplicate of 0000084 to begin with. I've crossposted everyone's notes, so all the information is there now.