0002225: Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe

(0007981)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-06-09 04:43

What weapon did he use?

(0007982)
schlappi (reporter)
2010-06-09 04:51
edited on: 2010-06-09 05:06

He used a local produced steel battle axe.

(0007983)
snelg (reporter)
2010-06-09 05:24

Did you check the combat logs if he was really using the axe? Just a thought was that maybe he got a hold of something else before or during the combat. But elephants don't really have any clothes or anything he might've been able to use, right? Did he have a shield or something else? Maybe he used that instead for some reason.

I'm assuming these kinds of items would count as misc objects, if they aren't I guess you can just ignore this. :D

(0007985)
schlappi (reporter)
2010-06-09 05:40
edited on: 2010-06-09 05:41

He was nicely chopping away with his *steel battle axe*, sending elephant pieces everywhere ;)

(0011432)
schlappi (reporter)
2010-08-03 03:32

I found out on another occasion that it was the shield bashing which gave him the misc. skill. Dwarves assigned to weapons which arent available yet due to hauling jobs or else use their shield as offensive weapon, thus gaining the misc object user skill.

(0011433)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2010-08-03 04:32

Wasn't shield bashing training shield user skill back in 40d? Seemed more correct to me considering that shields were sometimes used offensively in real life.

(0011435)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-08-03 05:41

In 40d (and even back in 23a), shield bashing trained Wrestling, and dwarves seem to prefer shield bashing over punching/wrestling.

It's possible the dwarf shieldbashed the elephant to the point of knocking it over, then switched to the axe to finish it off (which wouldn't have given any Axe experience, since attacking a prone target gives no experience).

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-06-09 04:06	schlappi	New Issue
2010-06-09 04:06	schlappi	Tag Attached: battle axes
2010-06-09 04:06	schlappi	Tag Attached: fighting
2010-06-09 04:43	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0007981
2010-06-09 04:51	schlappi	Note Added: 0007982
2010-06-09 05:06	schlappi	Note Edited: 0007982	View Revisions
2010-06-09 05:24	snelg	Note Added: 0007983
2010-06-09 05:40	schlappi	Note Added: 0007985
2010-06-09 05:41	schlappi	Note Edited: 0007985	View Revisions
2010-06-09 06:53	Footkerchief	Summary	Axedwarf gains "misc object user" skill after combat => Dwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill
2010-08-03 03:32	schlappi	Note Added: 0011432
2010-08-03 03:33	schlappi	Tag Attached: misc object user skill
2010-08-03 04:32	Rafal99	Note Added: 0011433
2010-08-03 05:41	Quietust	Note Added: 0011435
2010-08-21 09:24	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0003067
2014-01-21 20:06	Footkerchief	Summary	Dwarf with no Axe skill wields axe in combat, gets Misc Object User skill => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe
2014-01-21 20:06	Footkerchief	Summary	Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with a shield instead of an axe => Unskilled dwarf prefers to fight with shield instead of axe
2014-01-21 20:07	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0003067
2014-01-21 20:07	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2014-01-21 20:14	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000535
2014-01-29 10:45	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006421

Notes
(0007981) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-06-09 04:43	What weapon did he use?

(0007982) schlappi (reporter) 2010-06-09 04:51 edited on: 2010-06-09 05:06	He used a local produced steel battle axe.

(0007983) snelg (reporter) 2010-06-09 05:24	Did you check the combat logs if he was really using the axe? Just a thought was that maybe he got a hold of something else before or during the combat. But elephants don't really have any clothes or anything he might've been able to use, right? Did he have a shield or something else? Maybe he used that instead for some reason. I'm assuming these kinds of items would count as misc objects, if they aren't I guess you can just ignore this. :D

(0007985) schlappi (reporter) 2010-06-09 05:40 edited on: 2010-06-09 05:41	He was nicely chopping away with his steel battle axe, sending elephant pieces everywhere ;)

(0011432) schlappi (reporter) 2010-08-03 03:32	I found out on another occasion that it was the shield bashing which gave him the misc. skill. Dwarves assigned to weapons which arent available yet due to hauling jobs or else use their shield as offensive weapon, thus gaining the misc object user skill.

(0011433) Rafal99 (reporter) 2010-08-03 04:32	Wasn't shield bashing training shield user skill back in 40d? Seemed more correct to me considering that shields were sometimes used offensively in real life.

(0011435) Quietust (reporter) 2010-08-03 05:41	In 40d (and even back in 23a), shield bashing trained Wrestling, and dwarves seem to prefer shield bashing over punching/wrestling. It's possible the dwarf shieldbashed the elephant to the point of knocking it over, then switched to the axe to finish it off (which wouldn't have given any Axe experience, since attacking a prone target gives no experience).