0002407: Dwarves don't haul metal ore to stockpile anymore

(0008896)
Jh00 (reporter)
2010-06-21 12:14

For the sake of reporting, I would like to add that the metal that isn´t being hauled is NEW (i.e., was not available by the time I reclaimed). In other words, I reclaimed -> built a new stockpile -> mined some walls -> found some new ore -> ore stay there.

Curiously, it seems to affect only cooper nuggets and hematite so far, since other metal ores were hauled normally.

(0008913)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-21 12:53

Oh, hmm... might be a new manifestation of 0001173, I guess.

(0008914)
Jh00 (reporter)
2010-06-21 13:31

I dunno... In the report you mentioned, nothing seemed to be hauled because apparently the game could not create more "dump item" jobs.

In this case however, hauling works normally with food, furniture etc. The game seems to be assigning new "haul orders" normaly. The problem is that for some reason those metals are being ignored for stockpiling.

One thing worth mentioning is that when I order some copper smelted, the smelter can actually bring ore to the smelter, so I suppose the ore isn´t "locked", it is just being ignored for the stockpile.

(0008916)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-21 13:40
edited on: 2010-06-22 08:10

Yeah, I didn't mean 0001173 itself so much as related bugs like 0001519, which sounds very much like this bug. I guess you could try forbidding everything in your fortress except for the ore, and see if they'll haul it then.

(0009624)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-04 10:29

Reminder sent to: Jh00

Any updates? Can you rule out 0001519 as the cause of this bug?

(0009719)
Jh00 (reporter)
2010-07-07 07:32

I will have another look and will post my findings here.

(0009727)
Jh00 (reporter)
2010-07-07 08:42

I will have another look and will post my findings here.

EDIT: I followed your advice and forbid everything I found but the ores. After further testing, I realized that the problem was in fact the Orders set to "Refuse Minerals", which I didn´t know existed, but I may have activated it by mistake ("o" "s") while trying to cancel squad orders ("s" "o"). This explains why the Smelter was gathering hematite and copper nuggets even though the stockpile wasn´t being filled with metal ore.

Since that I originally reported that "other ores were being hauled", I created other stockpiles and mined for more ore and observed that everything were being hauled correctly after I turned "Refuse Minerals" off. I think I got the impression that other metals were being hauled probably by seeing rocks that has the same tile as metal ore being hauled.

So, I shamefully ask that this "bug" be closed as "resolved". Sorry for the misleading report.

(0009728)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-07 08:48

The 'o'rders menu strikes again!

Don't worry about being shameful, you'd be surprised how often the orders menu trips people up.

(0009730)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-07 08:54

No problem, thanks for investigating.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-06-20 21:36	Jh00	New Issue
2010-06-20 21:48	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000863
2010-06-20 21:48	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-06-20 21:48	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2010-06-20 21:48	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-06-21 12:14	Jh00	Note Added: 0008896
2010-06-21 12:14	Jh00	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2010-06-21 12:14	Jh00	Resolution	duplicate => reopened
2010-06-21 12:52	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Footkerchief =>
2010-06-21 12:52	Footkerchief	Status	needs feedback => new
2010-06-21 12:53	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008913
2010-06-21 13:31	Jh00	Note Added: 0008914
2010-06-21 13:40	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008916
2010-06-22 07:54	Jh00	Issue Monitored: Jh00
2010-06-22 08:10	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0008916	View Revisions
2010-06-27 17:24	Jh00	Issue End Monitor: Jh00
2010-07-04 10:28	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-04 10:29	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009624
2010-07-04 10:29	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	0000863
2010-07-04 10:29	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001519
2010-07-07 07:32	Jh00	Note Added: 0009719
2010-07-07 08:42	Jh00	Note Added: 0009727
2010-07-07 08:48	smjjames	Note Added: 0009728
2010-07-07 08:54	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009730
2010-07-07 08:54	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-07 08:54	Footkerchief	Resolution	reopened => no change required
2010-07-07 08:54	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-08-10 00:12	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE

Notes
(0008896) Jh00 (reporter) 2010-06-21 12:14	For the sake of reporting, I would like to add that the metal that isn´t being hauled is NEW (i.e., was not available by the time I reclaimed). In other words, I reclaimed -> built a new stockpile -> mined some walls -> found some new ore -> ore stay there. Curiously, it seems to affect only cooper nuggets and hematite so far, since other metal ores were hauled normally.

(0008913) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-21 12:53	Oh, hmm... might be a new manifestation of 0001173, I guess.

(0008914) Jh00 (reporter) 2010-06-21 13:31	I dunno... In the report you mentioned, nothing seemed to be hauled because apparently the game could not create more "dump item" jobs. In this case however, hauling works normally with food, furniture etc. The game seems to be assigning new "haul orders" normaly. The problem is that for some reason those metals are being ignored for stockpiling. One thing worth mentioning is that when I order some copper smelted, the smelter can actually bring ore to the smelter, so I suppose the ore isn´t "locked", it is just being ignored for the stockpile.

(0008916) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-21 13:40 edited on: 2010-06-22 08:10	Yeah, I didn't mean 0001173 itself so much as related bugs like 0001519, which sounds very much like this bug. I guess you could try forbidding everything in your fortress except for the ore, and see if they'll haul it then.

(0009624) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-04 10:29	Reminder sent to: Jh00 Any updates? Can you rule out 0001519 as the cause of this bug?

(0009719) Jh00 (reporter) 2010-07-07 07:32	I will have another look and will post my findings here.

(0009727) Jh00 (reporter) 2010-07-07 08:42	I will have another look and will post my findings here. EDIT: I followed your advice and forbid everything I found but the ores. After further testing, I realized that the problem was in fact the Orders set to "Refuse Minerals", which I didn´t know existed, but I may have activated it by mistake ("o" "s") while trying to cancel squad orders ("s" "o"). This explains why the Smelter was gathering hematite and copper nuggets even though the stockpile wasn´t being filled with metal ore. Since that I originally reported that "other ores were being hauled", I created other stockpiles and mined for more ore and observed that everything were being hauled correctly after I turned "Refuse Minerals" off. I think I got the impression that other metals were being hauled probably by seeing rocks that has the same tile as metal ore being hauled. So, I shamefully ask that this "bug" be closed as "resolved". Sorry for the misleading report.

(0009728) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-07 08:48	The 'o'rders menu strikes again! Don't worry about being shameful, you'd be surprised how often the orders menu trips people up.

(0009730) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-07 08:54	No problem, thanks for investigating.