0004085: Crash to desktop--seemingly random but reproducible

(0015550)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-27 17:40

Reminder sent to: brian

Is this explained by 0003555? I.e., is there a kobold escaping your map?

(0015552)
brian (reporter)
2011-02-27 19:08

Nah there are no outstanding kill orders. I did get that one earlier but I was able to figure it out.

(0015556)
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-02-27 20:00

Reminder sent to: brian

You have some remapped tiles, what mod(s) are you using? Does it turn on TrueType? Did you make any changes to the raws in the save file after the world was generated (specifically to creature_subterranean)?

Oddly, there is a goblin pikemaster still on his dead giant cave swallow mount, which is now a skeleton, both being stuck on top of a cedar tree.

(0015564)
brian (reporter)
2011-02-28 03:10

Yeah goblins came in on GCS mounts, which is an abandon-or-tinker situation. I removed their brains to kill them (after homeotherm didn't work like in nuclear catsplosion). I had also tried removing their mountability but I think it turns out that doesn't get checked mid-flight.

You know, maybe this isn't valid. This game started on Windows with a graphics set release like Mayday's (not that one specifically though), then I moved the installed raws ontop of a Linux installation and ran with it there. I wouldn't think there'd be anything specifically wrong with doing that but it certainly isn't the normal case.

(0015565)
brian (reporter)
2011-02-28 03:24

AH found it, using Ironhand. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=53180.0 [^]

(0015568)
Infiltrator (reporter)
2011-02-28 07:36
edited on: 2011-02-28 08:06

brian, try upgrading your nvidia drivers to the latest version, and then load.

EDIT: nevermind, that won't fix it. I just tried it. Lasted about ten seconds.

What version did you generate this world in?

(0015571)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-28 08:21

Reminder sent to: brian

Does it still crash if you disable TrueType in init.txt?

(0015588)
brian (reporter)
2011-02-28 15:32

Disabling TrueType didn't stop it from producing the same crash.

(0015589)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-28 15:48
edited on: 2011-02-28 15:51

Yeah goblins came in on GCS mounts, which is an abandon-or-tinker situation. I removed their brains to kill them (after homeotherm didn't work like in nuclear catsplosion). I had also tried removing their mountability but I think it turns out that doesn't get checked mid-flight.

If you removed their brains after generating the world, that is probably the cause of the crash. See Toady's note at 0001271:0008465. Adding the brains back may or may not fix your problem.

(0015767)
brian (reporter)
2011-03-05 10:44

FYI (just for some closure) replacing the brains didn't work, but restoring to the last seasonal did. Thanks for the help.

(0015768)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-03-05 10:54

Alright, thanks for the followup! Closure is indeed what we seek.

Notes
(0015550) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-02-27 17:40	Reminder sent to: brian Is this explained by 0003555? I.e., is there a kobold escaping your map?

(0015552) brian (reporter) 2011-02-27 19:08	Nah there are no outstanding kill orders. I did get that one earlier but I was able to figure it out.

(0015556) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-02-27 20:00	Reminder sent to: brian You have some remapped tiles, what mod(s) are you using? Does it turn on TrueType? Did you make any changes to the raws in the save file after the world was generated (specifically to creature_subterranean)? Oddly, there is a goblin pikemaster still on his dead giant cave swallow mount, which is now a skeleton, both being stuck on top of a cedar tree.

(0015564) brian (reporter) 2011-02-28 03:10	Yeah goblins came in on GCS mounts, which is an abandon-or-tinker situation. I removed their brains to kill them (after homeotherm didn't work like in nuclear catsplosion). I had also tried removing their mountability but I think it turns out that doesn't get checked mid-flight. You know, maybe this isn't valid. This game started on Windows with a graphics set release like Mayday's (not that one specifically though), then I moved the installed raws ontop of a Linux installation and ran with it there. I wouldn't think there'd be anything specifically wrong with doing that but it certainly isn't the normal case.

(0015565) brian (reporter) 2011-02-28 03:24	AH found it, using Ironhand. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=53180.0 [^]

(0015568) Infiltrator (reporter) 2011-02-28 07:36 edited on: 2011-02-28 08:06	brian, try upgrading your nvidia drivers to the latest version, and then load. EDIT: nevermind, that won't fix it. I just tried it. Lasted about ten seconds. What version did you generate this world in?

(0015571) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-02-28 08:21	Reminder sent to: brian Does it still crash if you disable TrueType in init.txt?

(0015588) brian (reporter) 2011-02-28 15:32	Disabling TrueType didn't stop it from producing the same crash.

(0015589) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-02-28 15:48 edited on: 2011-02-28 15:51	Yeah goblins came in on GCS mounts, which is an abandon-or-tinker situation. I removed their brains to kill them (after homeotherm didn't work like in nuclear catsplosion). I had also tried removing their mountability but I think it turns out that doesn't get checked mid-flight. If you removed their brains after generating the world, that is probably the cause of the crash. See Toady's note at 0001271:0008465. Adding the brains back may or may not fix your problem.

(0015767) brian (reporter) 2011-03-05 10:44	FYI (just for some closure) replacing the brains didn't work, but restoring to the last seasonal did. Thanks for the help.

(0015768) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-03-05 10:54	Alright, thanks for the followup! Closure is indeed what we seek.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-02-27 15:58	brian	New Issue
2011-02-27 17:40	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0015550
2011-02-27 19:08	brian	Note Added: 0015552
2011-02-27 19:39	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Save Needs Testing
2011-02-27 20:00	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0015556
2011-02-28 03:10	brian	Note Added: 0015564
2011-02-28 03:24	brian	Note Added: 0015565
2011-02-28 07:36	Infiltrator	Note Added: 0015568
2011-02-28 07:36	Infiltrator	Issue Monitored: Infiltrator
2011-02-28 07:45	Infiltrator	Note Edited: 0015568	View Revisions
2011-02-28 08:03	Infiltrator	Note Edited: 0015568	View Revisions
2011-02-28 08:06	Infiltrator	Note Edited: 0015568	View Revisions
2011-02-28 08:21	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0015571
2011-02-28 08:21	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-28 15:32	brian	Note Added: 0015588
2011-02-28 15:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0015589
2011-02-28 15:51	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0015589	View Revisions
2011-02-28 15:52	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0001271
2011-03-05 10:44	brian	Note Added: 0015767
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0015768
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-05 10:54	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: Save Needs Testing
2011-03-08 05:12	Infiltrator	Issue End Monitor: Infiltrator