0005161: Game crashed during world generation

(0020012)
lightman (reporter)
2012-02-17 21:41

Sorry, I don't think this is a dupe. I didn't get that error message and this was during worldgen not after.

(0020013)
lightman (reporter)
2012-02-17 21:42

isn't there some way to get Toady the crash dump? This was in the middle of world gen so it didn't save anything.

(0020017)
Knight Otu (manager)
2012-02-18 02:20

Can you give us the world gen info with seeds? It would be in gamelog.txt, its location depending on how many worlds you genned in the meantime. It should look something like this:

Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4335334
Seed: kQYW02gMQoUKMAIe6qcO
History Seed: EQAyOqgcSUwys3F7DEl8
Name Seed: 6puoKglWr1Xq2rOr87pj
Creature Seed: SiRvbW1nlajdDTDaxosn

The parameter set for your options should be CREATE WORLD NOW = 4434432, if I recall the options correctly.

(0020229)
lightman (reporter)
2012-02-19 21:35

This should be it. I found these values in gamelog.txt and matched them in the memory dump.

Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4434433
Seed: ys37V8fJ7WJuAaX2ZP9T
History Seed: Qk28ku1L7rBkMkKlG1KJ
Name Seed: uzIAP77G2rJGRghqv9ra
Creature Seed: CiB2JgLmheImTPIuybY9

(0020230)
aarongolliver (reporter)
2012-02-19 22:47

I'm also having this problem.
DF Version: 0.34.02, Phoebus_34_02v01 integrated pack, True Type fonts on
Platform: Intel Westmere Xeon
Memory total: 24 GB

notes:
removed aquifers
ram usage was about 1.7 GB before the crash
Crashes after generation reaches 550, as it's scrolling between regions, but before given the chance to accept.

World size: Medium
Histor: Long
Number Civs: Very High
Number Beasts: Very High
Savagery: Very High
Minerals: Frequent

gamelog.txt:

Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4455444
Seed: SKGUEOEkS4S6QOyGG4MW
History Seed: GUQucaWcSWokGAoQMyOU
Name Seed: gs0KcKUwsSMi4g2a0kS2
Creature Seed: ycacsYmMus0GEoKQWmmA
*** STARTING NEW GAME ***

(0020300)
Moogie (reporter)
2012-02-20 16:52
edited on: 2012-02-20 17:18

34.02 SDL (unmodded)

Windows 7 x64
Quad Core i5 (3.1GHz)
8GB RAM (1.9GB used by DF at time of crash)

I've done some extensive testing on this, and I think I've narrowed down the issue. Here are my results.

The crashes seem to occur reliably during "finalizing sites" when the 'Number of Civilisations' is higher than default, and both 'Population Cap' and 'Site Cap' are turned off.

I've been generating custom Large worlds to test this. My latest crashseeds are as follows:

Seed: rZCzJBzuarkOtKKhGnaf
History Seed: zdrDmK6nzqJKi4DE2yhv
Name Seed: BqjSQzst7YYUL3YXu4q6
Creature Seed: fPgVwtBsqsoQ6Nxu7vUv

Seed: 1bWYT4W8q4rr7XtnnuJ4
History Seed: Pqcv0GdYaNXmDAL4zjhu
Name Seed: LRSzj8R1ZyhoIVbDTDlO
Creature Seed: KXA6syO6cK89OpyeYjx6

Steps to reproduce:
1. Create new world with Advanced Parameters.
2. (c)opy the Large Region settings.
3. (e)dit the new setting and change the "Population Cap" and "Site Cap" settings to Ignored, then set "Number of Civilisations" to anything above 60.
4. Begin worldgen. Let it run for at least 150 years.
5. Force worldgen to finalize. It will crash during "finalizing sites".

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/a0sJm.png [^]

Update: I used a mempatcher to enable LAA and my crashes have gone, so it seems likely that the 2GB memory limit is the root of the issue (at least in my case).

(0021851)
Deathworks (reporter)
2012-03-29 02:20
edited on: 2012-03-29 02:22

Hi!

I have just experienced a crash during world generation in 0.34.06 on Windows XP Professional SP3, which seems to be the same type. The crash was accompanied by the error message of an abnormal/extraordinary termination of the program and occured during the finalizing sites phase of world generation. The "current" directory of the saves directory is not empty. The parameters are:

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:MEDIUM MESHED]
    [SEED:ScampsAdventures]
    [HISTORY_SEED:ScampsAdventures]
    [NAME_SEED:ScampsAdventures]
    [CREATURE_SEED:ScampsAdventures]
    [DIM:129:129]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:10000]
    [END_YEAR:222]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:-1]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:0]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:600:1300]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:200:301]
    [TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:400]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:800:200]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:3200:3200]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:201:201]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:2:2:1:6:6:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:2:1:2:5:3:2]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:2:2:3:5:6:7]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:2:1:2:8:2:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:2:3:2:1:2:3]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:200]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:200]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:200]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:100:0:0]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:200]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:300]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:100]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:100]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:1000]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:200]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:100]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:100]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:20]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:600:600:100]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:600:600:100]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:6]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:200]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1200:2:2]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2100:2:2]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:1000]
    [RIVER_MINS:800:300]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:10]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:10]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:10]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:10]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:10]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:3]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:200]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:500]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:60]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:200]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:1]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:35]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:-1]
    [SITE_CAP:-1]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0]
    [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-02-15 22:19	lightman	New Issue
2012-02-15 22:19	lightman	Tag Attached: crash
2012-02-15 22:19	lightman	Tag Attached: world generation
2012-02-15 22:19	lightman	Tag Attached: 34.01
2012-02-15 22:21	lightman	Issue Monitored: lightman
2012-02-16 07:05	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0005053
2012-02-16 07:05	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2012-02-16 07:05	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2012-02-16 07:05	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2012-02-17 21:41	lightman	Note Added: 0020012
2012-02-17 21:41	lightman	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2012-02-17 21:41	lightman	Resolution	duplicate => reopened
2012-02-17 21:42	lightman	Note Added: 0020013
2012-02-17 21:42	lightman	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2012-02-18 02:20	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0020017
2012-02-18 02:20	Knight Otu	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-02-18 10:15	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0005053
2012-02-18 10:15	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Footkerchief =>
2012-02-18 10:15	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => new
2012-02-19 11:08	Logical2u	Relationship added	related to 0005303
2012-02-19 21:35	lightman	Note Added: 0020229
2012-02-19 22:44	aarongolliver	Tag Attached: 0.34.02
2012-02-19 22:47	aarongolliver	Note Added: 0020230
2012-02-19 22:47	aarongolliver	Issue Monitored: aarongolliver
2012-02-20 16:52	Moogie	Note Added: 0020300
2012-02-20 17:18	Moogie	Note Edited: 0020300	View Revisions
2012-02-22 09:04	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0005303
2012-02-28 09:29	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Toady One
2012-02-28 09:30	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Fixed in 0.34.03?
2012-02-28 09:30	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2012-03-29 02:20	Deathworks	Note Added: 0021851
2012-03-29 02:20	Deathworks	Note Edited: 0021851	View Revisions
2012-03-29 02:22	Deathworks	Note Edited: 0021851	View Revisions
2012-06-06 13:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005283
2012-06-06 13:34	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0005053
2012-06-06 13:34	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0005283
2014-01-21 19:50	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005053
2014-01-26 08:46	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-01-26 08:46	Footkerchief	Fixed in Version	=> 0.34.03
2014-01-26 08:46	Footkerchief	Resolution	reopened => fixed
2014-01-26 08:46	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2014-01-26 08:46	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: Fixed in 0.34.03?
2014-07-09 18:12	lightman	Issue End Monitor: lightman

Notes
(0020012) lightman (reporter) 2012-02-17 21:41	Sorry, I don't think this is a dupe. I didn't get that error message and this was during worldgen not after.

(0020013) lightman (reporter) 2012-02-17 21:42	isn't there some way to get Toady the crash dump? This was in the middle of world gen so it didn't save anything.

(0020017) Knight Otu (manager) 2012-02-18 02:20	Can you give us the world gen info with seeds? It would be in gamelog.txt, its location depending on how many worlds you genned in the meantime. It should look something like this: Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4335334 Seed: kQYW02gMQoUKMAIe6qcO History Seed: EQAyOqgcSUwys3F7DEl8 Name Seed: 6puoKglWr1Xq2rOr87pj Creature Seed: SiRvbW1nlajdDTDaxosn The parameter set for your options should be CREATE WORLD NOW = 4434432, if I recall the options correctly.

(0020229) lightman (reporter) 2012-02-19 21:35	This should be it. I found these values in gamelog.txt and matched them in the memory dump. Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4434433 Seed: ys37V8fJ7WJuAaX2ZP9T History Seed: Qk28ku1L7rBkMkKlG1KJ Name Seed: uzIAP77G2rJGRghqv9ra Creature Seed: CiB2JgLmheImTPIuybY9

(0020230) aarongolliver (reporter) 2012-02-19 22:47	I'm also having this problem. DF Version: 0.34.02, Phoebus_34_02v01 integrated pack, True Type fonts on Platform: Intel Westmere Xeon Memory total: 24 GB notes: removed aquifers ram usage was about 1.7 GB before the crash Crashes after generation reaches 550, as it's scrolling between regions, but before given the chance to accept. World size: Medium Histor: Long Number Civs: Very High Number Beasts: Very High Savagery: Very High Minerals: Frequent gamelog.txt: Generating world using parameter set CREATE WORLD NOW = 4455444 Seed: SKGUEOEkS4S6QOyGG4MW History Seed: GUQucaWcSWokGAoQMyOU Name Seed: gs0KcKUwsSMi4g2a0kS2 Creature Seed: ycacsYmMus0GEoKQWmmA * STARTING NEW GAME *

(0020300) Moogie (reporter) 2012-02-20 16:52 edited on: 2012-02-20 17:18	34.02 SDL (unmodded) Windows 7 x64 Quad Core i5 (3.1GHz) 8GB RAM (1.9GB used by DF at time of crash) I've done some extensive testing on this, and I think I've narrowed down the issue. Here are my results. The crashes seem to occur reliably during "finalizing sites" when the 'Number of Civilisations' is higher than default, and both 'Population Cap' and 'Site Cap' are turned off. I've been generating custom Large worlds to test this. My latest crashseeds are as follows: Seed: rZCzJBzuarkOtKKhGnaf History Seed: zdrDmK6nzqJKi4DE2yhv Name Seed: BqjSQzst7YYUL3YXu4q6 Creature Seed: fPgVwtBsqsoQ6Nxu7vUv Seed: 1bWYT4W8q4rr7XtnnuJ4 History Seed: Pqcv0GdYaNXmDAL4zjhu Name Seed: LRSzj8R1ZyhoIVbDTDlO Creature Seed: KXA6syO6cK89OpyeYjx6 Steps to reproduce: 1. Create new world with Advanced Parameters. 2. (c)opy the Large Region settings. 3. (e)dit the new setting and change the "Population Cap" and "Site Cap" settings to Ignored, then set "Number of Civilisations" to anything above 60. 4. Begin worldgen. Let it run for at least 150 years. 5. Force worldgen to finalize. It will crash during "finalizing sites". Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/a0sJm.png [^] Update: I used a mempatcher to enable LAA and my crashes have gone, so it seems likely that the 2GB memory limit is the root of the issue (at least in my case).

(0021851) Deathworks (reporter) 2012-03-29 02:20 edited on: 2012-03-29 02:22	Hi! I have just experienced a crash during world generation in 0.34.06 on Windows XP Professional SP3, which seems to be the same type. The crash was accompanied by the error message of an abnormal/extraordinary termination of the program and occured during the finalizing sites phase of world generation. The "current" directory of the saves directory is not empty. The parameters are: [WORLD_GEN] [TITLE:MEDIUM MESHED] [SEED:ScampsAdventures] [HISTORY_SEED:ScampsAdventures] [NAME_SEED:ScampsAdventures] [CREATURE_SEED:ScampsAdventures] [DIM:129:129] [EMBARK_POINTS:10000] [END_YEAR:222] [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:-1] [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:0] [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0] [ELEVATION:1:400:600:1300] [RAINFALL:0:100:200:301] [TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:400] [DRAINAGE:0:100:800:200] [VOLCANISM:0:100:3200:3200] [SAVAGERY:0:100:201:201] [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:2:2:1:6:6:1] [RAIN_FREQUENCY:2:1:2:5:3:2] [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:2:2:3:5:6:7] [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:2:1:2:8:2:1] [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:2:3:2:1:2:3] [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1] [MINERAL_SCARCITY:100] [MEGABEAST_CAP:200] [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:200] [TITAN_NUMBER:200] [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:100:0:0] [DEMON_NUMBER:200] [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:300] [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:100] [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:100] [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:1000] [SECRET_NUMBER:200] [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:100] [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:100] [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20] [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:20] [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:600:600:100] [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:600:600:100] [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:6] [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4] [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4] [VOLCANO_MIN:200] [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1200:2:2] [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2100:2:2] [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0] [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0] [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:1000] [RIVER_MINS:800:300] [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0] [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1] [SUBREGION_MAX:5000] [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0] [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1] [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1] [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:10] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:10] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:10] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:10] [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:10] [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:3] [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:200] [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:500] [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:60] [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:200] [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0] [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:1] [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:35] [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:-1] [SITE_CAP:-1] [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1] [ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0] [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0] [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0] [SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0] [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]