0005755: Caravan Guard Ghosts are still not appearing for slabs

(0022024)
Kogut (reporter)
2012-04-02 06:38

Please, upload savegame in similar situation (before DFhack workarounds).

(0022027)
quintilius (reporter)
2012-04-02 07:30

Here you go... hadnt saved over it yet

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6072 [^]

(0022173)
quintilius (reporter)
2012-04-08 19:48

as i've continued to play this one out - i've gone through 12 or 13 axedwarves and speardwarves etc i've had to put down through 'alternate means' - they're only caravan guards, but if i had to say 'is it every time or not' i'd say yes. With tweak-ghostly working though - this isnt as 'major' as it was without it.

(0022777)
daftfad (reporter)
2012-05-29 11:40

Same problem here. 34.10. I've even entombed the corpse. The coffin says "Owner: Ducim .., Ghostly Macedwarf". He is not listed at the craftsdwarf's for memorialization.

(0022921)
Kijiro (reporter)
2012-06-08 09:19

Confirmed for 34.11. I have ghosts of guards from a caravan wandering around my fort with no option to engrave a slab for them.

(0022924)
Kogut (reporter)
2012-06-08 12:04

34.11 save may be helpful.

(0023106)
vuking (reporter)
2012-06-25 04:18
edited on: 2012-06-25 04:23

Here you go. save for 34.11

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6574 [^]

Repeat simple enough. It is necessary to drop the caravan of dwarves, along with security into the lava! The lava will burn the corpses, but the engraving is permitted only for merchants.

(0023384)
Knight Otu (manager)
2012-07-29 09:02

Tamaki posted a save at 0006139

(0023386)
kreepergrimms (reporter)
2012-07-29 10:32

there is a way i figured to find "SOME" but not all dwarves that cannot be found, if your grave says ghostly instead of just the name it means the ghost has claimed the coffin but has not been buried yet, the thing i do is any time that happens is to remove the coffin and place it back down, freeing any original tennants to be reburied, it works half the time due to others not having bodies or the bodies not being accesible

(0023391)
musicmastermsh (reporter)
2012-07-30 14:53

I once had to bury a caravan escort's arm, as that was the only piece of him left. The rest of him might have survived and run off the map, as far as I can tell. What happens if he survived, then comes back (still alive) after I buried his arm?

(0027800)
Symmetry (reporter)
2014-07-28 12:31
edited on: 2014-07-28 12:31

Just to say this is now happening to bandits too, though I guess that's to be expected.

It's slightly more annoying in 40.05 as everyone in my fort was too terrified to eat or drink while the ghost was in sight of the food stockpile.

(It's just a shame that with such a great bugfix release it only takes one to make me miss dfhack again :(

(0027917)
imagio (reporter)
2014-07-29 19:57

I just had a similar issue ruin my fortress. Some dwarves raided me, I killed one, he came back as a ghost, and there was no way to remove him. My dwarves tasks were constantly "interrupted by ghost" so they would not eat, drink, or sleep and went insane.

Opened a ticket for it here with a save file as it seems similar but not identical http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7721 [^]

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-04-02 06:31	quintilius	New Issue
2012-04-02 06:38	Kogut	Note Added: 0022024
2012-04-02 07:30	quintilius	Note Added: 0022027
2012-04-02 08:42	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003708
2012-04-06 07:51	Djekke	Issue Monitored: Djekke
2012-04-08 19:48	quintilius	Note Added: 0022173
2012-05-28 17:47	Morrolan	Issue Monitored: Morrolan
2012-05-29 11:40	daftfad	Note Added: 0022777
2012-06-08 09:19	Kijiro	Note Added: 0022921
2012-06-08 12:04	Kogut	Note Added: 0022924
2012-06-25 04:18	vuking	Note Added: 0023106
2012-06-25 04:23	vuking	Note Edited: 0023106	View Revisions
2012-07-02 16:45	iamltr27	Issue Monitored: iamltr27
2012-07-29 09:01	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006139
2012-07-29 09:02	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0023384
2012-07-29 10:32	kreepergrimms	Note Added: 0023386
2012-07-30 14:53	musicmastermsh	Note Added: 0023391
2014-07-28 12:31	Symmetry	Note Added: 0027800
2014-07-28 12:31	Symmetry	Note Edited: 0027800	View Revisions
2014-07-29 02:04	Symmetry	Issue Monitored: Symmetry
2014-07-29 10:17	4maskwolf	Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-07-29 19:57	imagio	Note Added: 0027917
2014-07-29 21:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007427
2014-07-30 05:54	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007735
2014-08-12 08:15	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-12 08:15	Footkerchief	Status	new => confirmed
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2014-08-13 13:10	4maskwolf	Issue End Monitor: 4maskwolf

Notes
(0022024) Kogut (reporter) 2012-04-02 06:38	Please, upload savegame in similar situation (before DFhack workarounds).

(0022027) quintilius (reporter) 2012-04-02 07:30	Here you go... hadnt saved over it yet http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6072 [^]

(0022173) quintilius (reporter) 2012-04-08 19:48	as i've continued to play this one out - i've gone through 12 or 13 axedwarves and speardwarves etc i've had to put down through 'alternate means' - they're only caravan guards, but if i had to say 'is it every time or not' i'd say yes. With tweak-ghostly working though - this isnt as 'major' as it was without it.

(0022777) daftfad (reporter) 2012-05-29 11:40	Same problem here. 34.10. I've even entombed the corpse. The coffin says "Owner: Ducim .., Ghostly Macedwarf". He is not listed at the craftsdwarf's for memorialization.

(0022921) Kijiro (reporter) 2012-06-08 09:19	Confirmed for 34.11. I have ghosts of guards from a caravan wandering around my fort with no option to engrave a slab for them.

(0022924) Kogut (reporter) 2012-06-08 12:04	34.11 save may be helpful.

(0023106) vuking (reporter) 2012-06-25 04:18 edited on: 2012-06-25 04:23	Here you go. save for 34.11 http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6574 [^] Repeat simple enough. It is necessary to drop the caravan of dwarves, along with security into the lava! The lava will burn the corpses, but the engraving is permitted only for merchants.

(0023384) Knight Otu (manager) 2012-07-29 09:02	Tamaki posted a save at 0006139

(0023386) kreepergrimms (reporter) 2012-07-29 10:32	there is a way i figured to find "SOME" but not all dwarves that cannot be found, if your grave says ghostly instead of just the name it means the ghost has claimed the coffin but has not been buried yet, the thing i do is any time that happens is to remove the coffin and place it back down, freeing any original tennants to be reburied, it works half the time due to others not having bodies or the bodies not being accesible

(0023391) musicmastermsh (reporter) 2012-07-30 14:53	I once had to bury a caravan escort's arm, as that was the only piece of him left. The rest of him might have survived and run off the map, as far as I can tell. What happens if he survived, then comes back (still alive) after I buried his arm?

(0027800) Symmetry (reporter) 2014-07-28 12:31 edited on: 2014-07-28 12:31	Just to say this is now happening to bandits too, though I guess that's to be expected. It's slightly more annoying in 40.05 as everyone in my fort was too terrified to eat or drink while the ghost was in sight of the food stockpile. (It's just a shame that with such a great bugfix release it only takes one to make me miss dfhack again :(

(0027917) imagio (reporter) 2014-07-29 19:57	I just had a similar issue ruin my fortress. Some dwarves raided me, I killed one, he came back as a ghost, and there was no way to remove him. My dwarves tasks were constantly "interrupted by ghost" so they would not eat, drink, or sleep and went insane. Opened a ticket for it here with a save file as it seems similar but not identical http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7721 [^]