0007395: Dwarf appears to be floating/ hovering/ flying/ climbing the wall laterally

(0026703)
Qrox (reporter)
2014-07-16 19:28

Might be related: In adventure mode, NPCs often try to grab (climb?) a wall, followed by massive "NPC lost hold of the wall" spam.

(0026707)
AxDeath (reporter)
2014-07-16 21:02

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9028 [^]

(0026713)
Waladil (reporter)
2014-07-16 23:11

Might this just be intended behavior now?
Climbing is a thing, after all. Your dwarf mighta just figured it out.

(0026727)
SteveTheRed (reporter)
2014-07-17 03:04

Fine if dwarves do it. Less fine if goblins work out how.

They don't just climb walls laterally; they will also go straight up. To demonstrate this, dig a pit by designating ramps in a section, and then another layer below that. Once that's all been dug out remove the slopes. The dwarves will ponder being stuck in the pit for a while, then will just scale the walls and climb right out.

I was going to test this with goblins, but there's a problem with them not being pittable at the moment.

(0026731)
Amena Ralikema (reporter)
2014-07-17 04:12
edited on: 2014-07-17 04:14

> Less fine if goblins work out how.

Well, all creatures are supposed to be able to climb to a degree, so...

You don't need pitting to test it - it can be done with cage release at the bottom of a locked room with a suitable opening in the ceiling.

(0026739)
Talvieno (reporter)
2014-07-17 05:55

I look forwards to the day when we can put weapon traps on walls, if that's ever going to happen. :D

(0026796)
SteveTheRed (reporter)
2014-07-17 18:10

Good point Amena - I was just wondering idly about goblins there, but I happened to have a spare goblin or two lying around, so I tried this out.

Turns out goblins do climb out of pits. That probably warrants a bug report of its own!

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-16 14:53	AxDeath	New Issue
2014-07-16 14:57	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006586
2014-07-16 19:28	Qrox	Note Added: 0026703
2014-07-16 21:02	AxDeath	Note Added: 0026707
2014-07-16 23:11	Waladil	Note Added: 0026713
2014-07-17 03:04	SteveTheRed	Note Added: 0026727
2014-07-17 04:12	Amena Ralikema	Note Added: 0026731
2014-07-17 04:14	Amena Ralikema	Note Edited: 0026731	View Revisions
2014-07-17 05:55	Talvieno	Note Added: 0026739
2014-07-17 18:10	SteveTheRed	Note Added: 0026796

Notes
(0026703) Qrox (reporter) 2014-07-16 19:28	Might be related: In adventure mode, NPCs often try to grab (climb?) a wall, followed by massive "NPC lost hold of the wall" spam.

(0026707) AxDeath (reporter) 2014-07-16 21:02	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9028 [^]

(0026713) Waladil (reporter) 2014-07-16 23:11	Might this just be intended behavior now? Climbing is a thing, after all. Your dwarf mighta just figured it out.

(0026727) SteveTheRed (reporter) 2014-07-17 03:04	Fine if dwarves do it. Less fine if goblins work out how. They don't just climb walls laterally; they will also go straight up. To demonstrate this, dig a pit by designating ramps in a section, and then another layer below that. Once that's all been dug out remove the slopes. The dwarves will ponder being stuck in the pit for a while, then will just scale the walls and climb right out. I was going to test this with goblins, but there's a problem with them not being pittable at the moment.

(0026731) Amena Ralikema (reporter) 2014-07-17 04:12 edited on: 2014-07-17 04:14	> Less fine if goblins work out how. Well, all creatures are supposed to be able to climb to a degree, so... You don't need pitting to test it - it can be done with cage release at the bottom of a locked room with a suitable opening in the ceiling.

(0026739) Talvieno (reporter) 2014-07-17 05:55	I look forwards to the day when we can put weapon traps on walls, if that's ever going to happen. :D

(0026796) SteveTheRed (reporter) 2014-07-17 18:10	Good point Amena - I was just wondering idly about goblins there, but I happened to have a spare goblin or two lying around, so I tried this out. Turns out goblins do climb out of pits. That probably warrants a bug report of its own!