0008156: soap requires 150 globs per bar to create

(0029630)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-08-25 20:50

I don't think that means 150 individual globs, but rather a single glob with a (hidden) size of at least 150. Try producing a few animals' worth of tallow, then try again.

(0029631)
Quietust (reporter)
2014-08-25 20:55
edited on: 2014-08-25 20:59

The fix for 0000063 probably needs to be extended to handle Globs as well as bars/powders/liquids/thread/cloth, now that they also have a "dimension" property.

Additionally, the RENDER_FAT reaction needs to specify [PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150] on its output, otherwise it looks like it should be producing a stack of 150 globs (which will all be needed to make a single bar of soap).

(0029795)
frodo5343 (reporter)
2014-08-30 06:27

So I tried making more soap after making a ton of tallow and lye. I currently have 49 tallow and 47 lye and I queued up 1 bar of soap and got the same message.

(0029796)
Quietust (reporter)
2014-08-30 06:35
edited on: 2014-08-30 06:36

Looking more closely, fat rendering is BROKEN - it takes a 150-dimension glob of fat and produces a single 1-dimension glob of tallow, which means you would have to render 150 globs of fat in order to make a single bar of soap.

(0030538)
Knight Otu (manager)
2014-10-04 13:53

*All* glob-producing reactions lack the PRODUCT_DIMENSION tag for the glob product, in fact. Wax globs from pressing honeycombs, for example, are affected too. The affected reactions are, as above, RENDER_FAT, MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE, PRESS_OIL, PRESS_OIL_FRUIT, and PRESS_HONEYCOMB, of which RENDER_FAT and PRESS_HONEYCOMB have an effect on further industries, namely soap-making and wax crafts.

(0030846)
axus (reporter)
2014-11-02 12:43
edited on: 2014-11-02 12:44

In .40.14, I haven't had any problem making fat -> tallow -> soap. The world was generated back around .40.07, and fortress embarked in .40.13

(0032106)
qoph (reporter)
2015-01-30 02:13

Can you check to also make sure that your dwarves aren't putting buckets of lye into barrels ... I wasn't able to make soap even after modding the raws and that turned out to be the problem

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-08-25 17:20	frodo5343	New Issue
2014-08-25 20:50	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0029630
2014-08-25 20:50	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-25 20:50	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-08-25 20:55	Quietust	Note Added: 0029631
2014-08-25 20:57	Quietust	Note Edited: 0029631	View Revisions
2014-08-25 20:59	Quietust	Note Edited: 0029631	View Revisions
2014-08-25 21:03	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000063
2014-08-30 06:27	frodo5343	Note Added: 0029795
2014-08-30 06:27	frodo5343	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-08-30 06:35	Quietust	Note Added: 0029796
2014-08-30 06:36	Quietust	Note Edited: 0029796	View Revisions
2014-10-04 13:53	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0030538
2014-10-04 13:53	Knight Otu	Tag Attached: Probable Quick Fix
2014-10-08 06:03	NekoHatsu	Issue Monitored: NekoHatsu
2014-11-02 12:43	axus	Note Added: 0030846
2014-11-02 12:44	axus	Note Edited: 0030846	View Revisions
2015-01-30 02:13	qoph	Note Added: 0032106

Notes
(0029630) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-08-25 20:50	I don't think that means 150 individual globs, but rather a single glob with a (hidden) size of at least 150. Try producing a few animals' worth of tallow, then try again.

(0029631) Quietust (reporter) 2014-08-25 20:55 edited on: 2014-08-25 20:59	The fix for 0000063 probably needs to be extended to handle Globs as well as bars/powders/liquids/thread/cloth, now that they also have a "dimension" property. Additionally, the RENDER_FAT reaction needs to specify [PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150] on its output, otherwise it looks like it should be producing a stack of 150 globs (which will all be needed to make a single bar of soap).

(0029795) frodo5343 (reporter) 2014-08-30 06:27	So I tried making more soap after making a ton of tallow and lye. I currently have 49 tallow and 47 lye and I queued up 1 bar of soap and got the same message.

(0029796) Quietust (reporter) 2014-08-30 06:35 edited on: 2014-08-30 06:36	Looking more closely, fat rendering is BROKEN - it takes a 150-dimension glob of fat and produces a single 1-dimension glob of tallow, which means you would have to render 150 globs of fat in order to make a single bar of soap.

(0030538) Knight Otu (manager) 2014-10-04 13:53	All glob-producing reactions lack the PRODUCT_DIMENSION tag for the glob product, in fact. Wax globs from pressing honeycombs, for example, are affected too. The affected reactions are, as above, RENDER_FAT, MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE, PRESS_OIL, PRESS_OIL_FRUIT, and PRESS_HONEYCOMB, of which RENDER_FAT and PRESS_HONEYCOMB have an effect on further industries, namely soap-making and wax crafts.

(0030846) axus (reporter) 2014-11-02 12:43 edited on: 2014-11-02 12:44	In .40.14, I haven't had any problem making fat -> tallow -> soap. The world was generated back around .40.07, and fortress embarked in .40.13

(0032106) qoph (reporter) 2015-01-30 02:13	Can you check to also make sure that your dwarves aren't putting buckets of lye into barrels ... I wasn't able to make soap even after modding the raws and that turned out to be the problem