0011363: Loyalty cascade after guests kill human thief.

(0040027)
PatrikLundell (reporter)
2020-02-12 00:07

Sounds like 0010578

(0040074)
Bumber (reporter)
2020-02-15 20:30
edited on: 2020-02-15 20:34

0010578 doesn't mention a loyalty cascade.

I just had this happen to me. A human lady consort showed up for one of my artifacts. My soldiers made short work of her, then immediately started killing one another.

Should be marked as related to general loyalty cascade issue 0003259.

(0040075)
Bumber (reporter)
2020-02-15 20:46

Uploaded a save: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14805 [^]

(0040091)
Bumber (reporter)
2020-02-17 13:55

Doesn't seem to be fixed in 0.47.3. I'll have to see if it happens for new thieves after I updated.

(0040098)
Orkel (reporter)
2020-02-18 03:41

I had one of these happen in 0.47.03.

Trying to kill a visiting necromancer made one of my soldiers turn rebel, because he had a noble title of another site (the combat logs showed him as Baroness of blahblahblah) but he wasn't a noble of *my* fort and worked normally as a soldier.

I am guessing the necromancer was somehow connected to that site, because the soldier started attacking my other soldiers (cutting off the foot of one, and heavily wounding another) before being killed by the rest of the squad. He was the only one to rebel in the fort, so definitely his noble inheritance had something to do with it.

(0040144)
Loci (manager)
2020-02-20 12:54

Since there were some loyalty cascade fixes in v0.47.03, a save from that version would be helpful.

(0040153)
Toady One (administrator)
2020-02-20 20:25

Bumber's save was pre-conflict, so the conditions reproduced really well. Looks like some of the dwarves liked the quester (as a passing acquaintance) and so added the murderer rep to their fellows when the quester was killed. And the dwarven soldiers that saw other dwarves as murderers took matters into their own hands. I've dialed this back a bit, ha ha.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2020-02-11 21:03	strife	New Issue
2020-02-12 00:07	PatrikLundell	Note Added: 0040027
2020-02-15 20:30	Bumber	Note Added: 0040074
2020-02-15 20:30	Bumber	Note Edited: 0040074	View Revisions
2020-02-15 20:34	Bumber	Note Edited: 0040074	View Revisions
2020-02-15 20:34	Bumber	Note Edited: 0040074	View Revisions
2020-02-15 20:46	Bumber	Note Added: 0040075
2020-02-16 09:27	Loci	Relationship added	related to 0003259
2020-02-17 13:55	Bumber	Note Added: 0040091
2020-02-18 03:41	Orkel	Note Added: 0040098
2020-02-20 12:54	Loci	Note Added: 0040144
2020-02-20 12:54	Loci	Assigned To	=> Loci
2020-02-20 12:54	Loci	Status	new => acknowledged
2020-02-20 20:25	Toady One	Note Added: 0040153
2020-02-20 20:25	Toady One	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2020-02-20 20:25	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2020-02-20 20:25	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2020-02-20 20:25	Toady One	Assigned To	Loci => Toady One

Notes
(0040027) PatrikLundell (reporter) 2020-02-12 00:07	Sounds like 0010578

(0040074) Bumber (reporter) 2020-02-15 20:30 edited on: 2020-02-15 20:34	0010578 doesn't mention a loyalty cascade. I just had this happen to me. A human lady consort showed up for one of my artifacts. My soldiers made short work of her, then immediately started killing one another. Should be marked as related to general loyalty cascade issue 0003259.

(0040075) Bumber (reporter) 2020-02-15 20:46	Uploaded a save: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14805 [^]

(0040091) Bumber (reporter) 2020-02-17 13:55	Doesn't seem to be fixed in 0.47.3. I'll have to see if it happens for new thieves after I updated.

(0040098) Orkel (reporter) 2020-02-18 03:41	I had one of these happen in 0.47.03. Trying to kill a visiting necromancer made one of my soldiers turn rebel, because he had a noble title of another site (the combat logs showed him as Baroness of blahblahblah) but he wasn't a noble of my fort and worked normally as a soldier. I am guessing the necromancer was somehow connected to that site, because the soldier started attacking my other soldiers (cutting off the foot of one, and heavily wounding another) before being killed by the rest of the squad. He was the only one to rebel in the fort, so definitely his noble inheritance had something to do with it.

(0040144) Loci (manager) 2020-02-20 12:54	Since there were some loyalty cascade fixes in v0.47.03, a save from that version would be helpful.

(0040153) Toady One (administrator) 2020-02-20 20:25	Bumber's save was pre-conflict, so the conditions reproduced really well. Looks like some of the dwarves liked the quester (as a passing acquaintance) and so added the murderer rep to their fellows when the quester was killed. And the dwarven soldiers that saw other dwarves as murderers took matters into their own hands. I've dialed this back a bit, ha ha.