0002041: Hunters level incredibly fast, mainly because animals die too slow

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0002041

Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Hunting

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2010-05-23 07:31

2010-07-15 08:38

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schlappi

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Footkerchief

Priority

normal

Severity

minor

Reproducibility

always

Status

resolved

Resolution

duplicate

Platform

windows

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0.31.04

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Fixed in Version

Summary

0002041: Hunters level incredibly fast, mainly because animals die too slow

Description

1. Hunters gain levels in archery if using crossbows and vice versa.
2. Most prey dies way too slow: in my current settings there are mainly gorillas, crocodiles, alligators and elephants. They make easy targets for my hunters, but die only after being pincushioned with a full load of a quiver (gorilla) or two (crocodiles, alligators), sometimes three or four (elephants). Most of these animals die from bloodlack while the hunter is away, getting more ammunition, thus they are not being returned as kills and butchered by the butcher (because the latter seems to have very limited area of action).
3. While shooting prone and unconcious elephants, hunters easily gain a lot of experience points, advancing to legendary archer and marksdwarfship in less than a year (just forge enough bolts!).

Steps To Reproduce

embark in warm/moist area and set up a hunting industry.

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duplicate of	0000833	resolved	Footkerchief	Adamantine bolts do less damage, bolts ineffective in general
duplicate of	0000089	resolved	Toady One	Wrestler/Fighter levels up way too quickly, especially against much bigger/stronger creatures

Notes
(0007218) Logical2u (manager) 2010-05-23 07:36	1. Archery is the generic ranged combat skill, so I'm not sure what the issue there is. Like fighter and melee skills. 2. We already know bolts suck, see 0000833. 3. Prone animals don't appear to give EXP in adventure mode, see 0000657, so it's probably just the function of firing the crossbow rather than hitting things that's giving the EXP, assuming the two modes share similar bugs. You should probably turn refuse collection from outside on then try and butcher the critters that died while your hunter was away. Typically the hunter hauls the critter to the butcher's shop, but if it didn't die on his watch I assume it just turns into generic refuse.

(0007229) schlappi (reporter) 2010-05-23 15:24	I was associating archery with bow skill... seemed logical to me.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-23 07:31	schlappi	New Issue
2010-05-23 07:36	Logical2u	Note Added: 0007218
2010-05-23 15:24	schlappi	Note Added: 0007229
2010-07-15 08:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000833
2010-07-15 08:38	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-15 08:38	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2010-07-15 08:38	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2010-07-15 08:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000089