0002023: dead expedition leader precludes visits by dwarven caravans

Notes
(0007161) binder (reporter) 2010-05-21 22:35	This is a partial duplicate of http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=141 [^] though nothing there mentions the failure of caravans to show.

(0007166) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-22 01:32 edited on: 2010-05-22 01:33	This is probably linked to 0000576. Did you get an announcement saying "A diplomat has left unhappy"? If you can't remember, try searching your gamelog.txt for the word "unhappy" or whatever. Are you getting any migrants?

(0007190) binder (reporter) 2010-05-22 09:03	inder@death:~/Desktop/df_linux$ grep -i diplomat gamelog.txt binder@death:~/Desktop/df_linux$ No diplomat has left unhappy messages. I've gotten two waves of migrants, but not in a while: binder@death:~/Desktop/df_linux$ grep -i migrant gamelog.txt Some migrants have arrived. Some migrants have arrived. The fortress attracted no migrants this season. The fortress attracted no migrants this season. The fortress attracted no migrants this season. The fortress attracted no migrants this season. binder@death:~/Desktop/df_linux$

(0007191) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-22 09:17	Hmm. I wonder if the liaison was the last surviving dwarf in your civilization. Could you try backing up your save, abandoning, and checking out the civ in Legends or Adv. Mode to see whether it has any dwarves left?

(0007196) binder (reporter) 2010-05-22 10:04	Adv. Mode only offers the choice of Human or Elf characters, no Dwarf origins at all. In Legends: Sedilimush's last pre-play events are from 290 and 298, when two different dwarven settlements were destroyed by enemy forces. Given the proliferation of messages I'm not able to ascertain if all dwarves named in its history are later killed or abducted. Deduk Sosh, the other dwarven civilization, seemed to be doing relatively okay until year 168 when a dwarf becomes outpost liaison, but there are no messages after that year for that civilization.

(0007212) binder (reporter) 2010-05-22 21:18	OK, I've done some more digging into it. I created a fortress from the other dwarven civilization, Deduk Sosh. It also receives no dwarven caravan in autumn. So it appears to have nothing to do with the dying nobles and everything to do with this region which was generated with two dwarven civilizations, one of which appears to have been wiped out. Perhaps a more accurate bug summary for this would be: possible to generate region without active dwarven civilizations. It seems that without at least one active, no dwarven caravans.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-21 22:29	binder	New Issue
2010-05-21 22:35	binder	Note Added: 0007161
2010-05-22 01:32	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007166
2010-05-22 01:32	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0007166	View Revisions
2010-05-22 01:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000576
2010-05-22 01:33	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0007166	View Revisions
2010-05-22 09:03	binder	Note Added: 0007190
2010-05-22 09:17	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007191
2010-05-22 10:04	binder	Note Added: 0007196
2010-05-22 21:18	binder	Note Added: 0007212
2014-01-22 11:40	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-01-22 11:40	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2014-01-22 11:40	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief