0000576: Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" if expedition leader dies

(0002882)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-04-11 15:17

This just happened to me, however, my Expedition Leader recently met an untimely end compliments of a forgotten beast.

(0002953)
bevilr (reporter)
2010-04-11 19:57

I think this is related to 0000141, as when this was occurring my expedition leader was dead as well.

(0003077)
Wolfen (reporter)
2010-04-12 10:26

I think you need an expedition leader, mayor or higheer-up noble to conduct meetings at all. This goes well with the bug that removes all noble positions upon death of the expedition leader.

(0003093)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-04-12 11:43

This may be intended behavior then. In both our instances, our Expedition Leaders were dead. If a meeting requires that position or higher, then it was working correctly.

A suggestion would be to allow the Broker to accept the diplomats, but then we'd get bug reports when both the Expedition Leader and Broker were dead...

Not sure here, may have to just protect our Expedition Leaders better.

(0004467)
Zombie (reporter)
2010-04-21 11:02

It should assign or let you assign a new one if your old one dies.

(0010892)
Gopher of Pern (reporter)
2010-07-23 20:44

I had the liaison leave when my Expedition leader was in a fey mood.

(0011323)
greycat (reporter)
2010-07-31 09:51
edited on: 2010-07-31 09:56

Could we merge all these "diplomat leaves unhappy" bugs, perhaps? There seem to be a lot of them, and most include "... because leader is dead" in the title, which is not the case I saw.

My elven liaison just left unhappily either because my mayor is in a strange mood, or because my drawbridge happened to be retracted at the time of his arrival. Even though I immediately sent someone to pull the lever. I can't say for sure which of the two caused it.

(0017291)
Kogut (reporter)
2011-04-11 03:11

Is it a bug? It sound like feature - disgusted diplomat irritated by awful fort (or cowardly running for his life).

(0024287)
AWellTrainedFerret (reporter)
2014-01-20 17:28

I had a similar incident: If you replace your mayor while the diplomat is on map, he instantly leaves disgusted. Apparently, when he arrives, he's looking for a specific dorf to hold a meeting with; and his target cannot change.

(0024400)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-01-27 12:56

From 0001130: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/zip/region1_liaisonBug.zip [^]

(0026904)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-18 14:38
edited on: 2014-07-18 14:39

This one may be fixed - Expedition leaders now change based on the new sucession mechanic. I had my expedition leader chosen to be king in my only fort in 0.34.XX so far, and another dwarf was chosen to be expedition leader. However, if the expedition leader dies or is replaced while the outpost liason is in the site, he still leaves unhappy.

(0027658)
dree12 (reporter)
2014-07-26 19:06
edited on: 2014-07-26 19:07

Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader dies while the liaison is on-site makes sense and is probably intended. Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader has been replaced is a bit more iffy.

BTW: I can confirm that expedition leaders are being replaced automatically now. Death should no longer cause a vacancy in that position.

(0028954)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-08-13 10:40

The specific bug this references is indeed fixed, since the expedition leader is automatically replaced. However, the (bug?) of the diplomat leaving then the expedition leader dies is still around.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-05 23:25	bevilr	New Issue
2010-04-06 13:28	bevilr	Issue Monitored: bevilr
2010-04-06 13:28	bevilr	Issue End Monitor: bevilr
2010-04-11 15:17	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0002882
2010-04-11 15:17	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Dwarfu
2010-04-11 19:57	bevilr	Note Added: 0002953
2010-04-12 10:26	Wolfen	Note Added: 0003077
2010-04-12 11:43	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0003093
2010-04-13 23:27	Pigbuster	Tag Attached: liaison
2010-04-13 23:27	Pigbuster	Tag Attached: diplomat
2010-04-13 23:31	Pigbuster	Tag Attached: liason
2010-04-14 00:05	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001130
2010-04-14 00:06	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000141
2010-04-14 00:06	Footkerchief	Summary	Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives => Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives when expedition leader is dead
2010-04-21 11:02	Zombie	Note Added: 0004467
2010-05-22 01:32	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0000141
2010-05-22 01:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0002023
2010-06-23 22:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0000672
2010-06-23 22:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0000622
2010-06-23 22:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0002454
2010-07-23 20:44	Gopher of Pern	Note Added: 0010892
2010-07-24 00:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000519
2010-07-24 00:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001440
2010-07-24 00:08	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0001440
2010-07-24 00:08	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001102
2010-07-24 00:08	Footkerchief	Sticky Issue	No => Yes
2010-07-31 09:51	greycat	Note Added: 0011323
2010-07-31 09:56	greycat	Note Edited: 0011323	View Revisions
2010-08-01 15:26	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0002916
2010-08-10 09:58	theqmann	Issue Monitored: theqmann
2011-04-11 03:11	Kogut	Note Added: 0017291
2014-01-20 17:28	AWellTrainedFerret	Note Added: 0024287
2014-01-22 12:28	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0000672
2014-01-27 12:56	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0001130
2014-01-27 12:56	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024400
2014-07-18 14:38	thvaz	Note Added: 0026904
2014-07-18 14:39	thvaz	Note Edited: 0026904	View Revisions
2014-07-18 16:11	Rafal99	Note Added: 0026910
2014-07-18 16:12	Rafal99	Note Deleted: 0026910
2014-07-18 17:23	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Fixed in 0.40.01?
2014-07-26 19:06	dree12	Note Added: 0027658
2014-07-26 19:07	dree12	Note Edited: 0027658	View Revisions
2014-07-26 19:07	dree12	Note Edited: 0027658	View Revisions
2014-08-13 10:40	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0028954
2014-08-13 10:49	Footkerchief	Summary	Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" as soon as he arrives when expedition leader is dead => Diplomat "Leaves Unhappily" if expedition leader dies
2014-08-13 12:28	4maskwolf	Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-08-13 13:28	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-13 13:28	Footkerchief	Status	new => confirmed

Notes
(0002882) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-04-11 15:17	This just happened to me, however, my Expedition Leader recently met an untimely end compliments of a forgotten beast.

(0002953) bevilr (reporter) 2010-04-11 19:57	I think this is related to 0000141, as when this was occurring my expedition leader was dead as well.

(0003077) Wolfen (reporter) 2010-04-12 10:26	I think you need an expedition leader, mayor or higheer-up noble to conduct meetings at all. This goes well with the bug that removes all noble positions upon death of the expedition leader.

(0003093) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-04-12 11:43	This may be intended behavior then. In both our instances, our Expedition Leaders were dead. If a meeting requires that position or higher, then it was working correctly. A suggestion would be to allow the Broker to accept the diplomats, but then we'd get bug reports when both the Expedition Leader and Broker were dead... Not sure here, may have to just protect our Expedition Leaders better.

(0004467) Zombie (reporter) 2010-04-21 11:02	It should assign or let you assign a new one if your old one dies.

(0010892) Gopher of Pern (reporter) 2010-07-23 20:44	I had the liaison leave when my Expedition leader was in a fey mood.

(0011323) greycat (reporter) 2010-07-31 09:51 edited on: 2010-07-31 09:56	Could we merge all these "diplomat leaves unhappy" bugs, perhaps? There seem to be a lot of them, and most include "... because leader is dead" in the title, which is not the case I saw. My elven liaison just left unhappily either because my mayor is in a strange mood, or because my drawbridge happened to be retracted at the time of his arrival. Even though I immediately sent someone to pull the lever. I can't say for sure which of the two caused it.

(0017291) Kogut (reporter) 2011-04-11 03:11	Is it a bug? It sound like feature - disgusted diplomat irritated by awful fort (or cowardly running for his life).

(0024287) AWellTrainedFerret (reporter) 2014-01-20 17:28	I had a similar incident: If you replace your mayor while the diplomat is on map, he instantly leaves disgusted. Apparently, when he arrives, he's looking for a specific dorf to hold a meeting with; and his target cannot change.

(0024400) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-01-27 12:56	From 0001130: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/zip/region1_liaisonBug.zip [^]

(0026904) thvaz (reporter) 2014-07-18 14:38 edited on: 2014-07-18 14:39	This one may be fixed - Expedition leaders now change based on the new sucession mechanic. I had my expedition leader chosen to be king in my only fort in 0.34.XX so far, and another dwarf was chosen to be expedition leader. However, if the expedition leader dies or is replaced while the outpost liason is in the site, he still leaves unhappy.

(0027658) dree12 (reporter) 2014-07-26 19:06 edited on: 2014-07-26 19:07	Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader dies while the liaison is on-site makes sense and is probably intended. Leaving unhappy because the expedition leader has been replaced is a bit more iffy. BTW: I can confirm that expedition leaders are being replaced automatically now. Death should no longer cause a vacancy in that position.

(0028954) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-08-13 10:40	The specific bug this references is indeed fixed, since the expedition leader is automatically replaced. However, the (bug?) of the diplomat leaving then the expedition leader dies is still around.