0002895: Caravan guards hang around as "Friendly" after the merchants leave

(0011284)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-30 07:08

Are you sure they aren't the liaison/diplomat? Either way, you should upload a save demonstrating this problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0011285)
bobbens (reporter)
2010-07-30 08:18

No, diplomats have "Diplomat" next to their name on the unit list. These guys have "Friendly" next to their name. I'll try uploading the older save since that was with vanilla df, newer one is with genesis mod.

(0011287)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-30 08:37

Did you place your fortress on top of, or right next to, some kind of town or forest retreat?

(0011288)
bobbens (reporter)
2010-07-30 09:41

No, it turns out both saves are modded, want to check to see if it's the mods fault first. Was almost certain one wasn't modded, it's still strange to see a friendly guy from the civilization just sort of standing there.

(0011289)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-30 09:56

In 40D, occasionally a soldier from a caravan will hang around on the map edge for a bit and then continue on. That could explain the human and dwarves, but not the elves.

(0011291)
bobbens (reporter)
2010-07-30 10:05
edited on: 2010-07-30 10:09

Well since it's modded the these elves have guards. So it could be the same thing.

@smjjames Do you recall if they changed from Merchant to Friendly in unit list?

(0011295)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-30 10:32
edited on: 2010-07-30 10:36

Yea, thats how I would notice them. I would look at the unit list for whatever reason and spot the friendly unit and check it out. Sometimes I would notice it when some animal flashed the enraged message and check what was going on. I think it was mostly dwarves (I was having a problem with humans not appearing for some reason for a while), but its happened to the humans as well. They stick around for a month or so before moving on.

I don't think I ever saw the point where they switch from merchant to friendly.

(0011305)
bobbens (reporter)
2010-07-30 14:04

Well this is probably still a bug, but it's really minor. I do not have a vanilla save with it, but I do have a genesis save with the friendly unit laying around if you still think it's needed. It doesn't really cause any harm, it just seemed curious and strange when I saw it.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-07-30 03:15	bobbens	New Issue
2010-07-30 07:08	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0011284
2010-07-30 08:18	bobbens	Note Added: 0011285
2010-07-30 08:37	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0011287
2010-07-30 09:41	bobbens	Note Added: 0011288
2010-07-30 09:56	smjjames	Note Added: 0011289
2010-07-30 10:05	bobbens	Note Added: 0011291
2010-07-30 10:09	bobbens	Note Edited: 0011291	View Revisions
2010-07-30 10:32	smjjames	Note Added: 0011295
2010-07-30 10:36	smjjames	Note Edited: 0011295	View Revisions
2010-07-30 14:04	bobbens	Note Added: 0011305
2010-08-07 01:19	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0002966
2010-08-07 01:19	Footkerchief	Summary	Friendly NPC just stand near the edge of the map => Caravan guards hang around as "Friendly" after the merchants leave
2010-12-24 04:13	Dwarfu	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0002966
2011-03-22 08:43	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0004304
2012-02-26 10:20	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000871
2012-02-26 10:22	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003407
2018-04-16 18:40	Huntthetroll	Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll

Notes
(0011284) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-30 07:08	Are you sure they aren't the liaison/diplomat? Either way, you should upload a save demonstrating this problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

(0011285) bobbens (reporter) 2010-07-30 08:18	No, diplomats have "Diplomat" next to their name on the unit list. These guys have "Friendly" next to their name. I'll try uploading the older save since that was with vanilla df, newer one is with genesis mod.

(0011287) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-30 08:37	Did you place your fortress on top of, or right next to, some kind of town or forest retreat?

(0011288) bobbens (reporter) 2010-07-30 09:41	No, it turns out both saves are modded, want to check to see if it's the mods fault first. Was almost certain one wasn't modded, it's still strange to see a friendly guy from the civilization just sort of standing there.

(0011289) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-30 09:56	In 40D, occasionally a soldier from a caravan will hang around on the map edge for a bit and then continue on. That could explain the human and dwarves, but not the elves.

(0011291) bobbens (reporter) 2010-07-30 10:05 edited on: 2010-07-30 10:09	Well since it's modded the these elves have guards. So it could be the same thing. @smjjames Do you recall if they changed from Merchant to Friendly in unit list?

(0011295) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-30 10:32 edited on: 2010-07-30 10:36	Yea, thats how I would notice them. I would look at the unit list for whatever reason and spot the friendly unit and check it out. Sometimes I would notice it when some animal flashed the enraged message and check what was going on. I think it was mostly dwarves (I was having a problem with humans not appearing for some reason for a while), but its happened to the humans as well. They stick around for a month or so before moving on. I don't think I ever saw the point where they switch from merchant to friendly.

(0011305) bobbens (reporter) 2010-07-30 14:04	Well this is probably still a bug, but it's really minor. I do not have a vanilla save with it, but I do have a genesis save with the friendly unit laying around if you still think it's needed. It doesn't really cause any harm, it just seemed curious and strange when I saw it.