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0000618Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Reclaimpublic2010-04-06 07:092014-01-27 20:09
Reporteroliver 
Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusnewResolutionopen 
Platformnative WindowsOSWindows XPOS VersionSP3
Product Version0.31.01 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000618: Caged goblins are freed after reclaiming
DescriptionMy fortress got attacked after less than a year by a squad of well-equipped goblin macemen.

Needless to say, much Fun was had. Cage traps initially accounted for most of the squad, but the last two proceeded to incapacitate my entire population. The final goblin wandered into a cage trap while trying to kill the last of my dwarves, and then I abandoned since I had no able-bodied dwarves left to treat the wounded. At this point there were 5 caged goblins in cage traps.

On reclaim, the goblins were (a) mysteriously uncaged, and (b) listed as Friendly on the unit list. And indeed, they do not seem to be aggressive towards my dwarves.

Trying to kill the goblins doesn't work. Giving my reclaim squad a Kill order, I can target the goblins, and the squad will run over to the target, but then they will not actually attack.
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Additional Information
TagsNo tags attached.
Relationships
related to 0000252acknowledged Footkerchief When reclaim Goblins are friendly 
has duplicate 0001976closed Logical2u Will not attack friendlies, no matter what. 
related to 0000863resolved Toady One Items that are tasked when fortress is abandoned are still tasked (invisibly) on reclaim, and other reclaim oddities 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-04-06 07:09oliverNew Issue
2010-04-06 07:31Logical2uNote Added: 0001438
2010-04-06 07:35oliverNote Added: 0001440
2010-04-06 07:51Logical2uNote Added: 0001444
2010-04-06 08:05oliverNote Added: 0001450
2010-04-06 08:10Logical2uNote Added: 0001453
2010-04-06 09:25FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0000252
2010-04-06 09:25FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-04-06 09:25FootkerchiefResolutionopen => duplicate
2010-04-06 09:25FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-04-06 09:26FootkerchiefStatusresolved => new
2010-04-06 09:27FootkerchiefRelationship addedduplicate of 0000481
2010-04-06 13:11FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief =>
2010-04-06 17:21oliverNote Added: 0001618
2010-04-06 18:25oliverNote Added: 0001634
2010-04-07 10:38FootkerchiefStatusnew => resolved
2010-04-07 10:38FootkerchiefAssigned To => Footkerchief
2010-04-10 11:52FootkerchiefAssigned ToFootkerchief =>
2010-04-10 11:52FootkerchiefStatusresolved => new
2010-04-10 11:52FootkerchiefResolutionduplicate => open
2010-04-10 11:52FootkerchiefSummaryReclaiming after a pyrrhic victory leads to friendly ex-caged goblins => Order to kill "friendly" goblins at reclaimed site doesn't work
2010-04-10 11:52FootkerchiefRelationship replacedchild of 0000481
2010-04-10 11:56DoctorZuberNote Added: 0002622
2010-04-10 11:56DoctorZuberNote Edited: 0002622bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=0002622#r853
2010-04-27 14:44FootkerchiefRelationship replacedrelated to 0000252
2010-05-19 16:29Logical2uRelationship addedhas duplicate 0001976
2010-06-10 17:07FootkerchiefNote Added: 0008092
2010-07-04 10:32FootkerchiefSummaryOrder to kill "friendly" goblins at reclaimed site doesn't work => Caged goblins are freed after reclaiming
2010-07-04 10:34FootkerchiefRelationship addedchild of 0000863
2010-07-04 10:34FootkerchiefRelationship deletedchild of 0000481
2010-07-04 10:34FootkerchiefRelationship deletedrelated to 0000252
2010-11-03 05:00Toady OneRelationship replacedrelated to 0000863
2014-01-27 20:09FootkerchiefRelationship addedrelated to 0000252

Notes
(0001438)
Logical2u   
2010-04-06 07:31   
Duplicate of 0000252
(0001440)
oliver   
2010-04-06 07:35   
Yep, didn't find that for some reason.
Is the un-caging expected, though?
(0001444)
Logical2u   
2010-04-06 07:51   
Basically during an abandon/reclaim, anything that's caged will get released, at least that's the way it's been since the last version. (A lot of other stuff happens too, but it's been so long since I did a thorough test in adventurer mode that I can't say for sure any more)

This has led to "megaprojects" of creating a goblin retirement home, goblin fortress, etc, on the forums.
(0001450)
oliver   
2010-04-06 08:05   
Ok, so about the only remaining thing in this report is that you can select a Friendly unit for a kill order, but it is not effective. (Either you shouldn't be able to select them, or the squad should actually attack - I'd say you should be able to attack, given the sandbox nature of the rest of the game)
(0001453)
Logical2u   
2010-04-06 08:10   
Might be related to 0000481 then.

If you save and reload, does the kill order work then?
(0001618)
oliver   
2010-04-06 17:21   
This is not a dupe of 481.
(0001634)
oliver   
2010-04-06 18:25   
Saving/reloading does not change the behaviour.
(0002622)
DoctorZuber   
2010-04-10 11:56   
okay, so are you saying that caged hostile monsters letting themselves out and converting to friendly monsters on reclaim is . . . expected behavior ?
(0008092)
Footkerchief   
2010-06-10 17:07   
Toady has started asking for saves for military/equipment bugs, so if you have a save demonstrating this problem, it might be helpful to upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/. [^] Thanks!