0001009: Empty bags are too heavy -- cloth bags weigh 30 kg, silk 10 kg

(0002852)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-04-11 12:07

Are you sure its not 3.0 and 1.0 respectively?

The bug could be in omitting the decimal point.

(0002854)
dree12 (reporter)
2010-04-11 12:23

A bag weighing 3.0kg is still heavy (for a bag). It should display <1kg if it is that light.

(0002858)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-11 12:38
edited on: 2010-04-11 12:39

Well, it's displaying like 30 Γ, not 3 Γ.
To put things in perspective: most armor parts weight 1 Γ, see 0000297 (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=297 [^])

(0002860)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-04-11 12:41

Yea I saw that bug report, even posted there since this may be related.

Maybe its a display bug, but I haven't really gotten into fort mode, kind of waiting for some of the major bugs to be fixed, so I don't really know for sure.

(0002862)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-11 12:49

I doubt it's a display bug -- most likely the bags still just have some garbage value for their item size, possibly left over from the old weight system.

(0002865)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-04-11 12:57

A really large bag could weigh that much (would have to be a huge silk bag to be 10 kilos, or a parachute), but in reality, bags in DF are probably more like the size of those used for coffee beans or large petfood bags. So an empty cloth bag wouldn't wiegh much more than a pound.

(0002871)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-11 13:39

Haven't Toady put in volume instead of item size? :)

(0002873)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-11 13:48

There's a difference? Anyway, it's called "size" in most places in the raws (weapons for example).

(0002880)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-11 14:29

I meant volume as in "how much fits in" or "the empty space inside the bag" ;)

(0003665)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-04-15 06:53

Cat skull totem weights 8 kg. There's something strange going on with these weights.

(0009620)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-04 09:21

Reminder sent to: Toady One

Another weight problem that may have gotten fixed.

(0009640)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-07-05 01:27

Yeah, this one is fixed now. One of the save compat things I didn't get a chance to fix coming out of 40d was splitting bags and boxes apart, so it was treating them like big thick silk or cloth chests.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-11 12:02	Jiri Petru	New Issue
2010-04-11 12:03	Jiri Petru	Tag Attached: cloth
2010-04-11 12:03	Jiri Petru	Tag Attached: weight
2010-04-11 12:03	Jiri Petru	Tag Attached: bags
2010-04-11 12:03	Jiri Petru	Tag Attached: silk
2010-04-11 12:07	smjjames	Note Added: 0002852
2010-04-11 12:23	dree12	Note Added: 0002854
2010-04-11 12:38	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0002858
2010-04-11 12:38	Jiri Petru	Note Edited: 0002858	View Revisions
2010-04-11 12:38	Jiri Petru	Note Edited: 0002858	View Revisions
2010-04-11 12:39	Jiri Petru	Note Edited: 0002858	View Revisions
2010-04-11 12:41	smjjames	Note Added: 0002860
2010-04-11 12:49	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0002862
2010-04-11 12:51	Footkerchief	Summary	Bags are too heavy? => Bags are too heavy -- cloth bags weigh 30 kg, silk 10 kg
2010-04-11 12:57	smjjames	Note Added: 0002865
2010-04-11 13:39	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0002871
2010-04-11 13:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0002873
2010-04-11 14:29	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0002880
2010-04-11 15:21	Footkerchief	Summary	Bags are too heavy -- cloth bags weigh 30 kg, silk 10 kg => Empty bags are too heavy -- cloth bags weigh 30 kg, silk 10 kg
2010-04-11 17:22	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-04-15 06:53	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0003665
2010-04-16 01:02	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001214
2010-06-06 11:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000297
2010-07-04 09:21	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Toady One
2010-07-04 09:21	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009620
2010-07-05 01:25	Toady One	Relationship replaced	related to 0001214
2010-07-05 01:27	Toady One	Note Added: 0009640
2010-07-05 01:27	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-05 01:27	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.09
2010-07-05 01:27	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-07-05 01:27	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2010-07-05 03:54	Khym Chanur	Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2014-09-01 14:52	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	has duplicate 0001214

Notes
(0002852) smjjames (reporter) 2010-04-11 12:07	Are you sure its not 3.0 and 1.0 respectively? The bug could be in omitting the decimal point.

(0002854) dree12 (reporter) 2010-04-11 12:23	A bag weighing 3.0kg is still heavy (for a bag). It should display <1kg if it is that light.

(0002858) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-04-11 12:38 edited on: 2010-04-11 12:39	Well, it's displaying like 30 Γ, not 3 Γ. To put things in perspective: most armor parts weight 1 Γ, see 0000297 (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=297 [^])

(0002860) smjjames (reporter) 2010-04-11 12:41	Yea I saw that bug report, even posted there since this may be related. Maybe its a display bug, but I haven't really gotten into fort mode, kind of waiting for some of the major bugs to be fixed, so I don't really know for sure.

(0002862) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-11 12:49	I doubt it's a display bug -- most likely the bags still just have some garbage value for their item size, possibly left over from the old weight system.

(0002865) smjjames (reporter) 2010-04-11 12:57	A really large bag could weigh that much (would have to be a huge silk bag to be 10 kilos, or a parachute), but in reality, bags in DF are probably more like the size of those used for coffee beans or large petfood bags. So an empty cloth bag wouldn't wiegh much more than a pound.

(0002871) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-04-11 13:39	Haven't Toady put in volume instead of item size? :)

(0002873) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-11 13:48	There's a difference? Anyway, it's called "size" in most places in the raws (weapons for example).

(0002880) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-04-11 14:29	I meant volume as in "how much fits in" or "the empty space inside the bag" ;)

(0003665) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-04-15 06:53	Cat skull totem weights 8 kg. There's something strange going on with these weights.

(0009620) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-04 09:21	Reminder sent to: Toady One Another weight problem that may have gotten fixed.

(0009640) Toady One (administrator) 2010-07-05 01:27	Yeah, this one is fixed now. One of the save compat things I didn't get a chance to fix coming out of 40d was splitting bags and boxes apart, so it was treating them like big thick silk or cloth chests.