0001448: Cave floater skin is made from frozen cave floater juice

(0004687)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-23 00:16
edited on: 2010-04-23 00:16

Does it reproduce? Were you modding a world's raws post-generation?

(0004693)
Khym Chanur (reporter)
2010-04-23 02:09

It reproduces occasionally with newly generated worlds from scratch (medium region), with the modification made to the global raws before world gen. It doesn't happen very often, though.

Also, the one time that I tried actually embarking when it was available, one of my dwarfs was wearing it, and it instantly dissolved into a cloud of juice vapor, which gave the dwarf and a horse fevers.

(0004694)
Khym Chanur (reporter)
2010-04-23 02:11

Oh, also, I changed it so that every underground creature and plant starts at cavern depth 1, which might make a difference.

(0004700)
Granite26 (reporter)
2010-04-23 05:41

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SKIN:SKIN_TEMPLATE]
    [TISSUE:GAS]
        [TISSUE_NAME:interior gas:NP]
        [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POD_JUICE]
        [TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
        [MUSCULAR]
        [FUNCTIONAL]
        [STRUCTURAL]
        [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10]
        [CONNECTS]
        [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
        [TISSUE_LEAKS]

Cave floaters have 'skin' made out off the gas that holds the creature together.

(0004728)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-23 10:09

^^^ That's not how those tags work (or are supposed to work, anyway). The TISSUE tag isn't subordinate to the USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE tag. They're only linked by TISSUE_MATERIAL, and in this case, TISSUE:GAS uses POD_JUICE while TISSUE:POD uses SKIN. So it's very weird for the leather to end up being made of pod juice.

(0017161)
Quietust (reporter)
2011-04-07 09:56
edited on: 2011-04-07 12:13

The problem is that cave floaters do not define a LEATHER material, so tanning a cave floater skin will yield a piece of "leather" made from the first defined material, which happens to be POD_JUICE.

(0017171)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-04-07 11:54

The problem is that cave floaters do not define a LEATHER material, so tanning a cave floater skin will yield a piece of "leather" made from the first defined material, which happens to be JUICE.

Good catch. That's 0001556.

Notes
(0004687) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-23 00:16 edited on: 2010-04-23 00:16	Does it reproduce? Were you modding a world's raws post-generation?

(0004693) Khym Chanur (reporter) 2010-04-23 02:09	It reproduces occasionally with newly generated worlds from scratch (medium region), with the modification made to the global raws before world gen. It doesn't happen very often, though. Also, the one time that I tried actually embarking when it was available, one of my dwarfs was wearing it, and it instantly dissolved into a cloud of juice vapor, which gave the dwarf and a horse fevers.

(0004694) Khym Chanur (reporter) 2010-04-23 02:11	Oh, also, I changed it so that every underground creature and plant starts at cavern depth 1, which might make a difference.

(0004700) Granite26 (reporter) 2010-04-23 05:41	[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SKIN:SKIN_TEMPLATE] [TISSUE:GAS] [TISSUE_NAME:interior gas:NP] [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POD_JUICE] [TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS] [MUSCULAR] [FUNCTIONAL] [STRUCTURAL] [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10] [CONNECTS] [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER] [TISSUE_LEAKS] Cave floaters have 'skin' made out off the gas that holds the creature together.

(0004728) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-23 10:09	^^^ That's not how those tags work (or are supposed to work, anyway). The TISSUE tag isn't subordinate to the USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE tag. They're only linked by TISSUE_MATERIAL, and in this case, TISSUE:GAS uses POD_JUICE while TISSUE:POD uses SKIN. So it's very weird for the leather to end up being made of pod juice.

(0017161) Quietust (reporter) 2011-04-07 09:56 edited on: 2011-04-07 12:13	The problem is that cave floaters do not define a LEATHER material, so tanning a cave floater skin will yield a piece of "leather" made from the first defined material, which happens to be POD_JUICE.

(0017171) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-04-07 11:54	The problem is that cave floaters do not define a LEATHER material, so tanning a cave floater skin will yield a piece of "leather" made from the first defined material, which happens to be JUICE. Good catch. That's 0001556.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-22 23:45	Khym Chanur	New Issue
2010-04-23 00:16	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0004687
2010-04-23 00:16	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0004687	View Revisions
2010-04-23 00:16	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2010-04-23 02:09	Khym Chanur	Note Added: 0004693
2010-04-23 02:11	Khym Chanur	Note Added: 0004694
2010-04-23 05:41	Granite26	Note Added: 0004700
2010-04-23 10:09	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0004728
2011-04-07 09:56	Quietust	Note Added: 0017161
2011-04-07 11:43	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0004464
2011-04-07 11:54	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0017171
2011-04-07 11:54	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0001556
2011-04-07 12:13	Quietust	Note Edited: 0017161	View Revisions