0001817: Nobles issue mandates for raw adamantine items

(0006484)
Cryten (reporter)
2010-05-09 21:23

I'd say this isn't a bug you just got a nobles who really likes adamantine. If you continue to get only adamantine as things progress then come back and update us. 3 proclomations isnt enough to count out randomness.

(0006486)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-09 22:18
edited on: 2010-05-09 22:19

Check the noble's (or nobles') status screen(s), specifically the part about what materials they like, to see whether they have a preference for adamantine.

(0006488)
Chrissi (reporter)
2010-05-09 22:48

I've never had this problem, it's probably just what your specific nobles like best. Adamantine is awesome so it makes sense.

(0006499)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-05-10 08:27

Since when have mandates ever been easy and/or sane?

There's a reason why nobles should have all of their furniture be magma proof. ;)

If your noble loves adamantine, slade, and crystal glass, it perhaps may be time for him to have a hot bath.

(0006797)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-05-16 11:18

SenorPiquante, we could use an update about whether the nobles had a preference for adamantine or not.

(0008956)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-22 09:12

Reminder sent to: SenorPiquante

Did the nobles have a preference for adamantine?

(0008963)
akd (reporter)
2010-06-22 09:52

I already disposed of a mayor that liked raw adamantine, this is certainly at least the third time I've had such a noble through all of the fortresses I've played. My current baroness is into slade, now, too..

More annoyingly, that mayor had a like for BINS and put an export prohibition on them (of course I only noticed once the traders were leaving the map with all of my crafts goods in bins. No jail set up, so tragedy followed with my swordsdwarf guard administering "beating" to several dwarves.....)

I'm guessing this behavior isn't really a bug unless unavailable materials are -supposed- to not be requested in mandates. As for the bins thing, it's obnoxious, but it is at least something possible to comply with. If it's impossible to make slade items without modification, then slade mandates are bogus. But for adamantine, it probably falls under "suggestion" more than "bug."

(0008965)
hyndis (reporter)
2010-06-22 12:21

Sounds like its working as intended.

Mandates are one of those things that while technically doable, some mandates are just too outlandish to realistically accomplish. If you have a noble demanding things that are not realistic to do you may want to consider "retiring" that noble.

You can check the preferences of the dwarf in question. If the dwarf likes pig tail cloth and plump helmets, he's a keeper. Very easy to please.

If he likes adamantine and dragon bone he will start issuing unfeasible mandates as soon as he gets any power.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-09 20:41	SenorPiquante	New Issue
2010-05-09 21:23	Cryten	Note Added: 0006484
2010-05-09 22:18	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0006486
2010-05-09 22:19	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0006486	View Revisions
2010-05-09 22:48	Chrissi	Note Added: 0006488
2010-05-10 08:27	hyndis	Note Added: 0006499
2010-05-16 00:34	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000782
2010-05-16 11:18	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0006797
2010-05-16 11:18	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-22 09:12	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0008956
2010-06-22 09:52	akd	Note Added: 0008963
2010-06-22 10:42	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-22 12:21	hyndis	Note Added: 0008965
2010-07-12 12:03	Footkerchief	Tag Renamed	Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2010-07-18 10:33	Footkerchief	Summary	Nobles mandate nothing but adamantine => Nobles issue mandates for raw adamantine items
2010-07-18 10:33	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-11-21 12:38	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2010-11-21 12:38	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2010-11-21 12:38	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2011-10-15 09:35	Dwarfu	Relationship deleted	related to 0000782
2011-10-15 09:35	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: Intentional/Expected?
2011-10-15 09:35	Dwarfu	Relationship added	child of 0000823

Notes
(0006484) Cryten (reporter) 2010-05-09 21:23	I'd say this isn't a bug you just got a nobles who really likes adamantine. If you continue to get only adamantine as things progress then come back and update us. 3 proclomations isnt enough to count out randomness.

(0006486) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-09 22:18 edited on: 2010-05-09 22:19	Check the noble's (or nobles') status screen(s), specifically the part about what materials they like, to see whether they have a preference for adamantine.

(0006488) Chrissi (reporter) 2010-05-09 22:48	I've never had this problem, it's probably just what your specific nobles like best. Adamantine is awesome so it makes sense.

(0006499) hyndis (reporter) 2010-05-10 08:27	Since when have mandates ever been easy and/or sane? There's a reason why nobles should have all of their furniture be magma proof. ;) If your noble loves adamantine, slade, and crystal glass, it perhaps may be time for him to have a hot bath.

(0006797) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-05-16 11:18	SenorPiquante, we could use an update about whether the nobles had a preference for adamantine or not.

(0008956) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-22 09:12	Reminder sent to: SenorPiquante Did the nobles have a preference for adamantine?

(0008963) akd (reporter) 2010-06-22 09:52	I already disposed of a mayor that liked raw adamantine, this is certainly at least the third time I've had such a noble through all of the fortresses I've played. My current baroness is into slade, now, too.. More annoyingly, that mayor had a like for BINS and put an export prohibition on them (of course I only noticed once the traders were leaving the map with all of my crafts goods in bins. No jail set up, so tragedy followed with my swordsdwarf guard administering "beating" to several dwarves.....) I'm guessing this behavior isn't really a bug unless unavailable materials are -supposed- to not be requested in mandates. As for the bins thing, it's obnoxious, but it is at least something possible to comply with. If it's impossible to make slade items without modification, then slade mandates are bogus. But for adamantine, it probably falls under "suggestion" more than "bug."

(0008965) hyndis (reporter) 2010-06-22 12:21	Sounds like its working as intended. Mandates are one of those things that while technically doable, some mandates are just too outlandish to realistically accomplish. If you have a noble demanding things that are not realistic to do you may want to consider "retiring" that noble. You can check the preferences of the dwarf in question. If the dwarf likes pig tail cloth and plump helmets, he's a keeper. Very easy to please. If he likes adamantine and dragon bone he will start issuing unfeasible mandates as soon as he gets any power.