0003703: After killing a kobold thief my axedwarf's current job is still "Kill Name, kobold thief" and won't change.

(0014091)
L0master (reporter)
2010-11-21 08:59

The bugged save.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=3459&f=region1.rar [^]

(0014092)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-11-21 09:07

You should be able to cancel the kill order upon completion, thus freeing your dwarf. This is a duplicate of 0000114.

(0014096)
L0master (reporter)
2010-11-21 09:13

Logical2u: the situation is: I didn't give any orders, so there is NO kill order. The dwarf was just a woodcutter, who transformed into an axedwarf without being part of a squad.

(0014097)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-11-21 09:15

...

What.

So, you have a non-drafted dwarf that became spontaneously drafted, acquired a kill-order spontaneously, and is now experiencing 0000114? And you can't issue orders to him?

Are you sure that that is actually what happened, and you're not confusing any of your dwarves, or that sort of thing?

(0014098)
L0master (reporter)
2010-11-21 09:27

Well, after embarking I made my woodcutter (with axedwarf skill) a militia captain in order to quickly create a sqad of him for quick thiev responses. After such responses i always disband the squad, and the dwarf returns to woodcutting (also changing his appearance back to civilian). But this time the squad wasn't formed, the woodcutter was just near the thiev, he changed appearance to axedwarf, and killed the thiev without any orders from me.

(You may check the save http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=3459&f=region1.rar [^])

(0014099)
Quietust (reporter)
2010-11-21 09:28

Did you play any fortress prior to this one without quitting and completely restarting Dwarf Fortress?

(0014100)
L0master (reporter)
2010-11-21 09:34
edited on: 2010-11-21 09:40

I played this fortress, abandonned it, then deleted region1 folder from save folder and replaced it with region1 folder I saved ten minutes before... And yes, i did it without restarting DF.

To put it short: i savescummed without restarting DF. But what does it have to do with my dwarf idling on kill job?

(0014102)
Kipi (reporter)
2010-11-21 09:58

It's known bug that if you quit fortress, do not restart the game, and load another fortress (same or different), the squads get messed up. You need to restart the game between saving and loading.

(0014104)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-11-21 10:58

L0master, if you could find us a save that reliably causes this same behaviour - ie, upon unpausing a dwarf will be automatically drafted and get an order - that would be great.

(0014106)
L0master (reporter)
2010-11-21 11:10

Logical2u unfortunately both my save that i linked here and my last spring autosave have the kobold already killed and dwarf already idling.

btw when the woodcutter transformed into axedwarf the message at the bottom of the screen said that he became militia captain not an axedwarf. And, once again, there were no any squads.

Actually I don't understand why the behvior of dwarf(prior to stucking on kill order) seems strange to you Logical2u, I think that any dwarf with appropriate weapon and skills would attack nearby thief (or am I wrong) especially if he is militia captain noble.

(0014107)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-11-21 11:37

In reality, that should be what happens, but in DF, typically only an active milita dwarf - someone who is listed as a *weapon*dwarf or wrestler or recruit actively seeks out enemies - the rest typically flee from combat, even if they have the skills and weapons. Or at least that was the behaviour I had in my games.

(0019827)
Footkerchief (manager)
2012-02-16 12:14

If anyone is able to reproduce this bug, please PM me on the forums.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-11-21 08:30	L0master	New Issue
2010-11-21 08:59	L0master	Note Added: 0014091
2010-11-21 09:07	Logical2u	Note Added: 0014092
2010-11-21 09:07	Logical2u	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000114
2010-11-21 09:07	Logical2u	Status	new => resolved
2010-11-21 09:07	Logical2u	Resolution	open => duplicate
2010-11-21 09:07	Logical2u	Assigned To	=> Logical2u
2010-11-21 09:13	L0master	Note Added: 0014096
2010-11-21 09:13	L0master	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2010-11-21 09:13	L0master	Resolution	duplicate => reopened
2010-11-21 09:15	Logical2u	Note Added: 0014097
2010-11-21 09:27	L0master	Note Added: 0014098
2010-11-21 09:27	L0master	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2010-11-21 09:27	L0master	Issue Monitored: L0master
2010-11-21 09:28	Quietust	Note Added: 0014099
2010-11-21 09:34	L0master	Note Added: 0014100
2010-11-21 09:38	L0master	Note Added: 0014101
2010-11-21 09:40	L0master	Note Deleted: 0014101
2010-11-21 09:40	L0master	Note Edited: 0014100	View Revisions
2010-11-21 09:58	Kipi	Note Added: 0014102
2010-11-21 10:58	Logical2u	Note Added: 0014104
2010-11-21 11:10	L0master	Note Added: 0014106
2010-11-21 11:37	Logical2u	Note Added: 0014107
2010-11-21 12:19	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0000114
2010-11-21 12:20	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003109
2010-11-21 12:20	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Logical2u =>
2010-11-21 12:20	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => new
2011-02-28 21:34	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001806
2011-02-28 21:34	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0003109
2011-03-14 09:49	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0001806
2011-03-14 09:50	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001806
2012-02-16 12:14	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0019827
2012-02-16 12:14	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2012-02-16 12:14	Footkerchief	Resolution	reopened => unable to reproduce
2012-02-16 12:14	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief

Notes
(0014091) L0master (reporter) 2010-11-21 08:59	The bugged save. http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=3459&f=region1.rar [^]

(0014092) Logical2u (manager) 2010-11-21 09:07	You should be able to cancel the kill order upon completion, thus freeing your dwarf. This is a duplicate of 0000114.

(0014096) L0master (reporter) 2010-11-21 09:13	Logical2u: the situation is: I didn't give any orders, so there is NO kill order. The dwarf was just a woodcutter, who transformed into an axedwarf without being part of a squad.

(0014097) Logical2u (manager) 2010-11-21 09:15	... What. So, you have a non-drafted dwarf that became spontaneously drafted, acquired a kill-order spontaneously, and is now experiencing 0000114? And you can't issue orders to him? Are you sure that that is actually what happened, and you're not confusing any of your dwarves, or that sort of thing?

(0014098) L0master (reporter) 2010-11-21 09:27	Well, after embarking I made my woodcutter (with axedwarf skill) a militia captain in order to quickly create a sqad of him for quick thiev responses. After such responses i always disband the squad, and the dwarf returns to woodcutting (also changing his appearance back to civilian). But this time the squad wasn't formed, the woodcutter was just near the thiev, he changed appearance to axedwarf, and killed the thiev without any orders from me. (You may check the save http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=3459&f=region1.rar [^])

(0014099) Quietust (reporter) 2010-11-21 09:28	Did you play any fortress prior to this one without quitting and completely restarting Dwarf Fortress?

(0014100) L0master (reporter) 2010-11-21 09:34 edited on: 2010-11-21 09:40	I played this fortress, abandonned it, then deleted region1 folder from save folder and replaced it with region1 folder I saved ten minutes before... And yes, i did it without restarting DF. To put it short: i savescummed without restarting DF. But what does it have to do with my dwarf idling on kill job?

(0014102) Kipi (reporter) 2010-11-21 09:58	It's known bug that if you quit fortress, do not restart the game, and load another fortress (same or different), the squads get messed up. You need to restart the game between saving and loading.

(0014104) Logical2u (manager) 2010-11-21 10:58	L0master, if you could find us a save that reliably causes this same behaviour - ie, upon unpausing a dwarf will be automatically drafted and get an order - that would be great.

(0014106) L0master (reporter) 2010-11-21 11:10	Logical2u unfortunately both my save that i linked here and my last spring autosave have the kobold already killed and dwarf already idling. btw when the woodcutter transformed into axedwarf the message at the bottom of the screen said that he became militia captain not an axedwarf. And, once again, there were no any squads. Actually I don't understand why the behvior of dwarf(prior to stucking on kill order) seems strange to you Logical2u, I think that any dwarf with appropriate weapon and skills would attack nearby thief (or am I wrong) especially if he is militia captain noble.

(0014107) Logical2u (manager) 2010-11-21 11:37	In reality, that should be what happens, but in DF, typically only an active milita dwarf - someone who is listed as a weapondwarf or wrestler or recruit actively seeks out enemies - the rest typically flee from combat, even if they have the skills and weapons. Or at least that was the behaviour I had in my games.

(0019827) Footkerchief (manager) 2012-02-16 12:14	If anyone is able to reproduce this bug, please PM me on the forums.