0006194: dwarves being murdered - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

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(0023555) Quietust (reporter) 2012-09-11 19:54 edited on: 2012-09-11 19:57	What you are observing is Dwarven Justice - if you ignore a Noble's mandate, a random dwarf (generally one with the appropriate skills to have been able to fulfill it) will be punished with Imprisonment, Hammerstrikes, or a Beating. If you have no jails, then it will always be a Beating, and Beatings have an alarming tendency to be lethal due to 0001016 and/or 0002907. Part of this bug (dwarves killed by justice being "found dead" and triggering a murder case) is also covered by 0005203.

(0023562) kreepergrimms (reporter) 2012-09-12 07:41	the thing is i do have cages setup with a steel chain, bed, table, chair, food stockpile and engraved stone, it has only had someone chained once, the rest of the time my military has a job saying beat criminal. its not even my hammerer just a random military unit

(0023563) Quietust (reporter) 2012-09-12 07:45	Beatings are supposed to be given out by your Sheriff or Captain of the Guard (or member of his squad) - if you don't have a sheriff, it's possible the game is just picking a random soldier to do it instead.

(0023564) kreepergrimms (reporter) 2012-09-12 10:54	idk lol but its weird seeing a random recruit chase down a random civilian and attack them because they didnt make a flute on time, i try to meet all demands by the nobles but with random effects like toys or instruments u just gotta give it to the crafters and see what they make, but again i still think death for not making a flute is a bit much for a disciplinary action

(0023565) Quietust (reporter) 2012-09-12 11:44	It may seem odd, but right now it's normal (and expected) for dwarves to be punished for failing to complete mandates. The fact that said punishments tend to be lethal is already covered by other bugs, as I stated above.

(0023567) Drazinononda (reporter) 2012-09-12 14:58	How about the apparent issue of [j]ustice-enabled cages and restraints not being used? I recently had the same issue (violation of production order) with a jail (chains) set up, but the punishment still jumped straight to Beating.

(0023569) kreepergrimms (reporter) 2012-09-12 20:24	and the subsequent murder charge never gets dealt with either, all it says is convicted but the dwarf is still walking around free without a beating set for him

(0023570) Quietust (reporter) 2012-09-12 20:34	Drazinononda: just because you have jails does not guarantee that all dwarves will be punished with prison time - some crimes legitimately have "Beating" as an allowable choice (generally based on the type of crime and/or the injured party). The only reason this is a problem right now is that beatings are lethal even though they're only supposed to cause minor injuries.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-09-11 19:18	kreepergrimms	New Issue
2012-09-11 19:54	Quietust	Note Added: 0023555
2012-09-11 19:57	Quietust	Note Edited: 0023555	View Revisions
2012-09-11 20:45	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0005203
2012-09-11 20:45	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2012-09-11 20:45	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2012-09-11 20:45	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2012-09-12 07:41	kreepergrimms	Note Added: 0023562
2012-09-12 07:41	kreepergrimms	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2012-09-12 07:41	kreepergrimms	Resolution	duplicate => reopened
2012-09-12 07:45	Quietust	Note Added: 0023563
2012-09-12 10:54	kreepergrimms	Note Added: 0023564
2012-09-12 10:54	kreepergrimms	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2012-09-12 11:44	Quietust	Note Added: 0023565
2012-09-12 14:58	Drazinononda	Note Added: 0023567
2012-09-12 20:24	kreepergrimms	Note Added: 0023569
2012-09-12 20:34	Quietust	Note Added: 0023570
2013-09-22 18:21	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => resolved
2013-09-22 18:21	Footkerchief	Resolution	reopened => no change required