0006975: Goblin siegers ignore sleeping dwarf

(0025597)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-10 14:19
edited on: 2014-07-10 14:20

Screenshot from when goblins walk right next to sleeping dwarf (they walk, aren't stopped trying to attack him):
http://prntscr.com/41dw7w [^]

(0025684)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-10 22:15

I think I might have figured it out.
The goblins entered the map from the east, and this part of my embark is in Evil region, which has regular rains of "heinous filth", that causes temporary blistering to my dwarves who are unlucky to work there.
It also rained on the goblins and I noticed that it causes red wounds to eyes with the description "His right eye is blistered", so I in this case it is entirely possible the goblins were just temporary blind.

Still, even if blind, they are supposed detect a dwarf one tile away, aren't they?

(0025802)
JasonMel (reporter)
2014-07-11 11:01

0001297 seems to indicate that eye injuries do not produce blindness.

(0025803)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-11 11:06

Yeah, there are so many other aggression issues that I suspect this is just another one.

(0025804)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-11 11:07
edited on: 2014-07-11 11:07

@JasonMel: Thanks for info, I didn't know that.

So it really seems to be an issue with combat AI passiveness.

(0025808)
Button (reporter)
2014-07-11 11:36

That's contrary to my experience. In 0.34.11 I had an embark with a small patch of blistering rain. Resident rocs that flew into that part of the embark and blistered their eyes became passive, and were easily struck down by guards from the next caravan.

On reviewing 0001297, it seems to me that they're talking about eye injuries not causing *permanent* blindness/eyes healing too easily. It seems to indicate that eye injuries do in fact cause temporary blindness.

(0037050)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2017-11-27 07:39
edited on: 2017-11-27 13:07

I still remember the original situation and I think the passiveness was indeed an effect of blistering rain causing blindness on invaders and this is working as intended. Can be closed.

(0037364)
lethosor (manager)
2017-12-20 11:29
edited on: 2017-12-20 11:30

Thanks! Sorry for the delay there. PM a manager on the forums if you need this reopened.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-10 14:09	Rafal99	New Issue
2014-07-10 14:16	Rafal99	Issue Monitored: Rafal99
2014-07-10 14:19	Rafal99	Note Added: 0025597
2014-07-10 14:20	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0025597	View Revisions
2014-07-10 22:15	Rafal99	Note Added: 0025684
2014-07-11 08:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006547
2014-07-11 11:01	JasonMel	Note Added: 0025802
2014-07-11 11:06	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0025803
2014-07-11 11:07	Rafal99	Note Added: 0025804
2014-07-11 11:07	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0025804	View Revisions
2014-07-11 11:36	Button	Note Added: 0025808
2017-11-27 07:39	Rafal99	Note Added: 0037050
2017-11-27 07:40	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0037050	View Revisions
2017-11-27 07:40	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0037050	View Revisions
2017-11-27 13:07	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0037050	View Revisions
2017-11-27 13:07	Rafal99	Tag Attached: CLOSE THIS
2017-12-20 11:29	lethosor	Tag Detached: CLOSE THIS
2017-12-20 11:29	lethosor	Note Added: 0037364
2017-12-20 11:29	lethosor	Status	new => resolved
2017-12-20 11:29	lethosor	Resolution	open => no change required
2017-12-20 11:29	lethosor	Assigned To	=> lethosor
2017-12-20 11:30	lethosor	Note Edited: 0037364	View Revisions
2018-01-24 09:11	Rafal99	Issue End Monitor: Rafal99

Notes
(0025597) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-10 14:19 edited on: 2014-07-10 14:20	Screenshot from when goblins walk right next to sleeping dwarf (they walk, aren't stopped trying to attack him): http://prntscr.com/41dw7w [^]

(0025684) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-10 22:15	I think I might have figured it out. The goblins entered the map from the east, and this part of my embark is in Evil region, which has regular rains of "heinous filth", that causes temporary blistering to my dwarves who are unlucky to work there. It also rained on the goblins and I noticed that it causes red wounds to eyes with the description "His right eye is blistered", so I in this case it is entirely possible the goblins were just temporary blind. Still, even if blind, they are supposed detect a dwarf one tile away, aren't they?

(0025802) JasonMel (reporter) 2014-07-11 11:01	0001297 seems to indicate that eye injuries do not produce blindness.

(0025803) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-11 11:06	Yeah, there are so many other aggression issues that I suspect this is just another one.

(0025804) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-11 11:07 edited on: 2014-07-11 11:07	@JasonMel: Thanks for info, I didn't know that. So it really seems to be an issue with combat AI passiveness.

(0025808) Button (reporter) 2014-07-11 11:36	That's contrary to my experience. In 0.34.11 I had an embark with a small patch of blistering rain. Resident rocs that flew into that part of the embark and blistered their eyes became passive, and were easily struck down by guards from the next caravan. On reviewing 0001297, it seems to me that they're talking about eye injuries not causing permanent blindness/eyes healing too easily. It seems to indicate that eye injuries do in fact cause temporary blindness.

(0037050) Rafal99 (reporter) 2017-11-27 07:39 edited on: 2017-11-27 13:07	I still remember the original situation and I think the passiveness was indeed an effect of blistering rain causing blindness on invaders and this is working as intended. Can be closed.

(0037364) lethosor (manager) 2017-12-20 11:29 edited on: 2017-12-20 11:30	Thanks! Sorry for the delay there. PM a manager on the forums if you need this reopened.