0006547: Wolves passive in adventure mode. - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0024912)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-07 20:31

Just to be clear, these are wolves that ambushed you while traveling?

(0025073)
Sagnips (reporter)
2014-07-08 09:57

Yes exactly. They ambushed me while traveling. But they didn't move or attack. They just stood there so I just killed them all and moved on without a scratch.

(0025077)
untrustedlife (reporter)
2014-07-08 10:15

Wolverines act like this too!

(0025080)
monk12 (reporter)
2014-07-08 10:43

I was ambushed by a Night Troll while traveling with companions; the Troll was peaceful to me, running past me harmlessly. I tried to talk to it to determine why it was peaceful, and while I was doing this it tore one of my companions apart. When it attacked my companion, the threat level jumped up to Lethal.

(0025094)
arara (reporter)
2014-07-08 11:07

I've run into groups of Thrips men/women and Peregrine Falcon men/women who will talk to each other about how they attacked me a minute ago, while doing no such thing. I can spread rumours about this event too, and can try and yield to them, but they never actually attack.

(0025095)
CaptainLambcake (reporter)
2014-07-08 11:14

Grey langurs are peaceful to me. Rhinos run from me, however.

(0025152)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-08 14:45
edited on: 2014-07-08 14:46

I can confirm this bug. It is one of the game breaking. Night trolls ambushed my party, killed my companions and just ignored me. They attacked me only after I attacked them.

Had the same problem with wolves. It looks like the player character doesn't attract attention from the enemies.

I attacked a bandit camp and or the bandits fled my party or attacked only my companions, so maybe isn't a ambush only issue.

(0025373)
Bloax (reporter)
2014-07-09 13:14
edited on: 2014-07-09 13:14

I was once ambushed by an elf corpse. (So, a zombie.)

The strange thing wasn't just that it was completely unrotted (!) but also that it was peaceful for whatever reason. (Since when are zombies peaceful towards living beings?)
Talking to it didn't yield any response, although attacking it would make it attempt to kill me dead just fine.

Ambushes smell funny at the moment it seems.

(0025387)
clanl (reporter)
2014-07-09 14:44

Happened to me in a town with a vampire.
After ambushing me he just stood there with tears in his eyes. He was running away from me when I tried to approach him, but never ran too far away. I talked to him, asking him to yield, which he did. Afterwards he went away.

(0025388)
Matt_S (reporter)
2014-07-09 14:57

I ran into a freak of shadow wrestler (yes, that's what the game called it) and was ready for a fight, but it was instead friendly. I accused it of being a night creature, and it told me to calm myself. But my companion, a dwarf necromancer, who several people told me I should take as a guide and simply hung out in the human mead hall, had a history with it, and started a fight. I joined in and quickly got manhandled. Shortly thereafter, the freak of shadow bled to death in a fight with a peasant. Apparently my dwarf necromancer companion didn't continue the fight and just started wandering the wilds after I died.

In legends mode, it lists a home as well as a lair. The home was the town where it ended up being killed, and it's listed as a rumored enemy fighter of the town.

(0025390)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-07-09 15:06

When I was attacking some dingoes with my paralyzed elven adventurer (I jumped out of the tree or something), they didn't seem to attack back either.

(0025428)
Xangi (reporter)
2014-07-09 17:43

Just happened with a cougar.

(0025557)
arara (reporter)
2014-07-10 11:13

I think this family of bugs needs a severity increase to major, it has a pretty bad effect on adventure mode.

(0025558)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-10 11:21

arara, agreed

(0025561)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-10 11:32

We don't use the severity or priority fields, but rest assured that we know it's a bad problem. Once the worst of the crashes are fixed, Toady should have time to look at these reports.

(0025669)
Xangi (reporter)
2014-07-10 20:38

Here's a save of me standing beside a passive Giant Dingo https://www.dropbox.com/s/frwd2mttfv5b9k1/region2.7z [^]

Slightly modded, though nothing that should produce this effect (just some new weapons).

(0025869)
Xangi (reporter)
2014-07-11 16:04

Bump because new info, it appears even night creatures (who should have OPPOSED_TO_LIFE) can be friendly, even recruitable. https://www.dropbox.com/s/77fw66rvor9tckn/region4.zip [^]

Fast travelling with a NC companion still registers as an ambush though.

(0026019)
eliotcougar (reporter)
2014-07-12 13:52

I've played several games and noticed that night creatures and other beasts that you're ordered to kill are always neutral in their caves (I've seen trolls, animal-men, dingo, werebear)...

Most of the wildlife is neutral too (but your companions are still eager to murder every living animal they see :) )... However, at the end of the day, while traveling alone, I've been murdered by a random pack of... ...bunnies???

(0026024)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-12 14:25

Something that I noticed, that must be a bug apart, every animal you find in the wield register an event that they attacked you. You can notice this when you meet animal men that can speak. They keep talking about how they attacked you though they never really attack. And these events spam your events list.

(0026582)
Talvieno (reporter)
2014-07-15 20:08

I found a demon spire full of happy trolls. Well, they were technically crying, but they definitely didn't seem to care about hurting me.

(0027239)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-07-22 12:48

I've fixed a few variants of this involving ambushing creatures and hunting historical creatures. The related issues will have to be handled separately, especially those involving civilized creatures.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-07 20:26	Sagnips	New Issue
2014-07-07 20:31	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024912
2014-07-08 09:57	Sagnips	Note Added: 0025073
2014-07-08 10:15	untrustedlife	Note Added: 0025077
2014-07-08 10:43	monk12	Note Added: 0025080
2014-07-08 11:07	arara	Note Added: 0025094
2014-07-08 11:14	CaptainLambcake	Note Added: 0025095
2014-07-08 13:40	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006666
2014-07-08 13:40	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006689
2014-07-08 13:40	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006634
2014-07-08 14:14	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006712
2014-07-08 14:45	thvaz	Note Added: 0025152
2014-07-08 14:45	thvaz	Issue Monitored: thvaz
2014-07-08 14:46	thvaz	Note Edited: 0025152	View Revisions
2014-07-08 14:52	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006717
2014-07-09 07:16	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006788
2014-07-09 07:17	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006810
2014-07-09 08:58	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006663
2014-07-09 13:14	Bloax	Note Added: 0025373
2014-07-09 13:14	Bloax	Note Edited: 0025373	View Revisions
2014-07-09 14:44	clanl	Note Added: 0025387
2014-07-09 14:57	Matt_S	Note Added: 0025388
2014-07-09 15:06	smjjames	Note Added: 0025390
2014-07-09 17:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006889
2014-07-09 17:43	Xangi	Note Added: 0025428
2014-07-10 11:13	arara	Note Added: 0025557
2014-07-10 11:21	thvaz	Note Added: 0025558
2014-07-10 11:32	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0025561
2014-07-10 20:38	Xangi	Note Added: 0025669
2014-07-10 22:30	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007021
2014-07-11 08:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006975
2014-07-11 16:04	Xangi	Note Added: 0025869
2014-07-12 13:52	eliotcougar	Note Added: 0026019
2014-07-12 13:56	eliotcougar	Issue Monitored: eliotcougar
2014-07-12 14:25	thvaz	Note Added: 0026024
2014-07-14 09:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005164
2014-07-15 15:03	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007346
2014-07-15 20:08	Talvieno	Note Added: 0026582
2014-07-15 22:21	4maskwolf	Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-07-17 10:09	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007418
2014-07-18 08:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007440
2014-07-18 08:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007434
2014-07-20 09:45	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0006663
2014-07-20 14:23	Duefaku	Issue Monitored: Duefaku
2014-07-20 14:23	Duefaku	Issue End Monitor: Duefaku
2014-07-21 07:12	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007161
2014-07-22 10:44	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007351
2014-07-22 12:48	Toady One	Note Added: 0027239
2014-07-22 12:48	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2014-07-22 12:48	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-07-22 12:48	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-07-22 12:48	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2014-07-22 13:26	thvaz	Issue End Monitor: thvaz
2014-07-27 11:11	4maskwolf	Issue End Monitor: 4maskwolf
2014-07-29 21:48	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007360
2014-08-09 15:50	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0006666
2014-08-14 16:50	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008013
2014-08-15 11:49	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008027
2014-08-19 10:17	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006835
2014-08-20 12:14	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0005249
2014-08-20 13:29	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007369
2014-08-22 18:57	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008123
2014-09-10 07:02	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008267
2014-10-01 09:58	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006945
2014-10-28 16:47	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0008267

Notes
(0024912) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-07 20:31	Just to be clear, these are wolves that ambushed you while traveling?

(0025073) Sagnips (reporter) 2014-07-08 09:57	Yes exactly. They ambushed me while traveling. But they didn't move or attack. They just stood there so I just killed them all and moved on without a scratch.

(0025077) untrustedlife (reporter) 2014-07-08 10:15	Wolverines act like this too!

(0025080) monk12 (reporter) 2014-07-08 10:43	I was ambushed by a Night Troll while traveling with companions; the Troll was peaceful to me, running past me harmlessly. I tried to talk to it to determine why it was peaceful, and while I was doing this it tore one of my companions apart. When it attacked my companion, the threat level jumped up to Lethal.

(0025094) arara (reporter) 2014-07-08 11:07	I've run into groups of Thrips men/women and Peregrine Falcon men/women who will talk to each other about how they attacked me a minute ago, while doing no such thing. I can spread rumours about this event too, and can try and yield to them, but they never actually attack.

(0025095) CaptainLambcake (reporter) 2014-07-08 11:14	Grey langurs are peaceful to me. Rhinos run from me, however.

(0025152) thvaz (reporter) 2014-07-08 14:45 edited on: 2014-07-08 14:46	I can confirm this bug. It is one of the game breaking. Night trolls ambushed my party, killed my companions and just ignored me. They attacked me only after I attacked them. Had the same problem with wolves. It looks like the player character doesn't attract attention from the enemies. I attacked a bandit camp and or the bandits fled my party or attacked only my companions, so maybe isn't a ambush only issue.

(0025373) Bloax (reporter) 2014-07-09 13:14 edited on: 2014-07-09 13:14	I was once ambushed by an elf corpse. (So, a zombie.) The strange thing wasn't just that it was completely unrotted (!) but also that it was peaceful for whatever reason. (Since when are zombies peaceful towards living beings?) Talking to it didn't yield any response, although attacking it would make it attempt to kill me dead just fine. Ambushes smell funny at the moment it seems.

(0025387) clanl (reporter) 2014-07-09 14:44	Happened to me in a town with a vampire. After ambushing me he just stood there with tears in his eyes. He was running away from me when I tried to approach him, but never ran too far away. I talked to him, asking him to yield, which he did. Afterwards he went away.

(0025388) Matt_S (reporter) 2014-07-09 14:57	I ran into a freak of shadow wrestler (yes, that's what the game called it) and was ready for a fight, but it was instead friendly. I accused it of being a night creature, and it told me to calm myself. But my companion, a dwarf necromancer, who several people told me I should take as a guide and simply hung out in the human mead hall, had a history with it, and started a fight. I joined in and quickly got manhandled. Shortly thereafter, the freak of shadow bled to death in a fight with a peasant. Apparently my dwarf necromancer companion didn't continue the fight and just started wandering the wilds after I died. In legends mode, it lists a home as well as a lair. The home was the town where it ended up being killed, and it's listed as a rumored enemy fighter of the town.

(0025390) smjjames (reporter) 2014-07-09 15:06	When I was attacking some dingoes with my paralyzed elven adventurer (I jumped out of the tree or something), they didn't seem to attack back either.

(0025428) Xangi (reporter) 2014-07-09 17:43	Just happened with a cougar.

(0025557) arara (reporter) 2014-07-10 11:13	I think this family of bugs needs a severity increase to major, it has a pretty bad effect on adventure mode.

(0025558) thvaz (reporter) 2014-07-10 11:21	arara, agreed

(0025561) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-10 11:32	We don't use the severity or priority fields, but rest assured that we know it's a bad problem. Once the worst of the crashes are fixed, Toady should have time to look at these reports.

(0025669) Xangi (reporter) 2014-07-10 20:38	Here's a save of me standing beside a passive Giant Dingo https://www.dropbox.com/s/frwd2mttfv5b9k1/region2.7z [^] Slightly modded, though nothing that should produce this effect (just some new weapons).

(0025869) Xangi (reporter) 2014-07-11 16:04	Bump because new info, it appears even night creatures (who should have OPPOSED_TO_LIFE) can be friendly, even recruitable. https://www.dropbox.com/s/77fw66rvor9tckn/region4.zip [^] Fast travelling with a NC companion still registers as an ambush though.

(0026019) eliotcougar (reporter) 2014-07-12 13:52	I've played several games and noticed that night creatures and other beasts that you're ordered to kill are always neutral in their caves (I've seen trolls, animal-men, dingo, werebear)... Most of the wildlife is neutral too (but your companions are still eager to murder every living animal they see :) )... However, at the end of the day, while traveling alone, I've been murdered by a random pack of... ...bunnies???

(0026024) thvaz (reporter) 2014-07-12 14:25	Something that I noticed, that must be a bug apart, every animal you find in the wield register an event that they attacked you. You can notice this when you meet animal men that can speak. They keep talking about how they attacked you though they never really attack. And these events spam your events list.

(0026582) Talvieno (reporter) 2014-07-15 20:08	I found a demon spire full of happy trolls. Well, they were technically crying, but they definitely didn't seem to care about hurting me.

(0027239) Toady One (administrator) 2014-07-22 12:48	I've fixed a few variants of this involving ambushing creatures and hunting historical creatures. The related issues will have to be handled separately, especially those involving civilized creatures.