0007427: Unslabbable invader ghost acts like a living invader

(0026777)
thvaz (reporter)
2014-07-17 14:17

This game is awesome.

(0027926)
lethosor (manager)
2014-07-29 20:38

Imagio posted http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9202 [^] at 0007721 - adding a link above.

(0027927)
imagio (reporter)
2014-07-29 21:00

Is there a way to prevent this from happening? It destroyed my very first fortress and there was nothing I could do about it which was very frustrating.

(0027940)
Symmetry (reporter)
2014-07-30 06:31

when dfhack works again you can use it to remove ghosts. Until then it's just a game ender I guess.

I'd thought he was a poltergeist when it happened to me but your idea about him being an invader ghost actually makes more sense.

(0028837)
Numerius (reporter)
2014-08-11 15:35

I've had this same problem with the same disastrous effects. With DFhack this would be no problem but, of course, the new versions don't have that.

I have managed to make a very temporary fix. In my current fort I had an unslabbable ghost spawn and chase around one of my dwarves at the edge of the map until the dwarf died of starvation. So, for the survival of the fort, I sacrifice one dwarf to be chased by the ghost for the rest of its dwarfy life. It makes for some nice role-playing, but its by no means preferable to fixing this bug outright.

(0028865)
Olith McHuman (reporter)
2014-08-11 22:56
edited on: 2014-08-11 23:04

I've had this happen twice now? (0.40.08, world gen in .06, lost to tantrum spiral in .07, reclaimed in .07) Anyway, in my case I was able to slab the ghost. Also, it looked like he sent a dwarf flying a few times when attacking him (the dwarf was never injured and I never got a combat report.)

Interestingly, while their names were on the engrave slab menu, they were not listed as being a ghost and were not at the top. His slab claims that he "Went missing in the year 92".

(0028876)
DungApe (reporter)
2014-08-12 09:18

I can confirm that issue appeared in my 0.40.08 game. Save continued since 0.40.03/04 (can't remember).

(0028964)
Nail (reporter)
2014-08-13 11:52

I've had the problem twice now, the first time in 0.40.06, then in 0.40.08.
The ghost appeared in the slab menu in .08, but not as a ghost and not in the top spot, and disappeared after slabbing.
In the earlier instance, the ghost didn't appear in the slab menu.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-17 14:15	Tharwen	New Issue
2014-07-17 14:17	thvaz	Note Added: 0026777
2014-07-29 20:13	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007721
2014-07-29 20:16	Talvieno	Issue Monitored: Talvieno
2014-07-29 20:17	GanjaBoss	Issue Monitored: GanjaBoss
2014-07-29 20:38	lethosor	Note Added: 0027926
2014-07-29 20:39	lethosor	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2014-07-29 21:00	imagio	Note Added: 0027927
2014-07-29 21:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005755
2014-07-29 21:35	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001156
2014-07-30 05:42	imagio	Issue Monitored: imagio
2014-07-30 05:52	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007735
2014-07-30 05:54	Dwarfu	Relationship deleted	has duplicate 0007735
2014-07-30 06:31	Symmetry	Note Added: 0027940
2014-07-30 06:34	Symmetry	Issue Monitored: Symmetry
2014-08-11 15:35	Numerius	Note Added: 0028837
2014-08-11 22:56	Olith McHuman	Note Added: 0028865
2014-08-11 23:04	Olith McHuman	Note Edited: 0028865	View Revisions
2014-08-12 08:14	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-12 08:14	Footkerchief	Status	new => confirmed
2014-08-12 09:18	DungApe	Note Added: 0028876
2014-08-12 19:04	Olith McHuman	Issue Monitored: Olith McHuman
2014-08-13 11:52	Nail	Note Added: 0028964
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-08-13 12:38	Toady One	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2014-08-13 13:09	Talvieno	Issue End Monitor: Talvieno
2014-08-17 13:31	Olith McHuman	Issue End Monitor: Olith McHuman

Notes
(0026777) thvaz (reporter) 2014-07-17 14:17	This game is awesome.

(0027926) lethosor (manager) 2014-07-29 20:38	Imagio posted http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9202 [^] at 0007721 - adding a link above.

(0027927) imagio (reporter) 2014-07-29 21:00	Is there a way to prevent this from happening? It destroyed my very first fortress and there was nothing I could do about it which was very frustrating.

(0027940) Symmetry (reporter) 2014-07-30 06:31	when dfhack works again you can use it to remove ghosts. Until then it's just a game ender I guess. I'd thought he was a poltergeist when it happened to me but your idea about him being an invader ghost actually makes more sense.

(0028837) Numerius (reporter) 2014-08-11 15:35	I've had this same problem with the same disastrous effects. With DFhack this would be no problem but, of course, the new versions don't have that. I have managed to make a very temporary fix. In my current fort I had an unslabbable ghost spawn and chase around one of my dwarves at the edge of the map until the dwarf died of starvation. So, for the survival of the fort, I sacrifice one dwarf to be chased by the ghost for the rest of its dwarfy life. It makes for some nice role-playing, but its by no means preferable to fixing this bug outright.

(0028865) Olith McHuman (reporter) 2014-08-11 22:56 edited on: 2014-08-11 23:04	I've had this happen twice now? (0.40.08, world gen in .06, lost to tantrum spiral in .07, reclaimed in .07) Anyway, in my case I was able to slab the ghost. Also, it looked like he sent a dwarf flying a few times when attacking him (the dwarf was never injured and I never got a combat report.) Interestingly, while their names were on the engrave slab menu, they were not listed as being a ghost and were not at the top. His slab claims that he "Went missing in the year 92".

(0028876) DungApe (reporter) 2014-08-12 09:18	I can confirm that issue appeared in my 0.40.08 game. Save continued since 0.40.03/04 (can't remember).

(0028964) Nail (reporter) 2014-08-13 11:52	I've had the problem twice now, the first time in 0.40.06, then in 0.40.08. The ghost appeared in the slab menu in .08, but not as a ghost and not in the top spot, and disappeared after slabbing. In the earlier instance, the ghost didn't appear in the slab menu.